Turn Off Ads?
Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 88

Thread: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

  1. #31
    Arbiter of Good Taste OGB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1,134

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by CardsFanBob View Post
    Agree with you gents regarding Ken Burns' "Baseball". I enjoyed it, but it has way, way too much east coast influence. It seemed like he didn't even consider baseball in middle America, when both of our clubs in particular played such a big role in its development.

    I really got irked when he came out with an additional inning covering baseball from the mid-90's to the 2000's. Talk about east coast bias? Yikes. It was about 90% Boston/NYC. 10% PED talk.
    Not to mention the Pirates, Cubs*, and Tigers


    *Believe it or not, if you go back far enough in baseball history there is a time when the Cubs were incredibly relevant in the sport
    I may not be fast, but I sure am slow.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #32
    Pre-tty, pre-tty good!! MWM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Posts
    12,324

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    The Sandlot gets my vote with The Natural a very close 2nd. I never thought 8 Men Out was all that great a movie.
    Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David

  4. #33
    Arbiter of Good Taste OGB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1,134

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by FlightRick View Post
    Can we agree that The Naked Gun should count, based on the last third of the movie?

    If so, I hereby add a vote for it.

    Also: just about the only thing I can think of that you guys haven't already mentioned is "4192," a documentary from 2 or 3 years ago. It's (obviously) about Pete's career, and is definitely to be filed under "Good Pete" (the kind who spins excellent yarns and loves baseball, instead of the one who lies and will do anything for a buck, including furniture store commercials). Plus lots of interviews with his contemporaries, who also tell great stories.

    Not to mention, music by Bob Pollard.



    Rick
    I can't go to a Reds game without making an Enrico Pollazzo reference.

    And I've wanted to see 4192. Is the soundtrack Pollard solo, or is it Guided By Voices, or both?
    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    The Bingo Long Traveling All-Stars & Motor Kings
    Literally came in here to say this.
    I may not be fast, but I sure am slow.

  5. #34
    Mon chou Choo vaticanplum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Posts
    7,184

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    I don't agree with any particular bias in Burns's documentary. I think the East Coast coverage is in line with the area's place in baseball history. To take away from that would be an anti-East Coast bias -- it's just a fact that a huge chunk of the professional sport's history is there.

    With such a mammoth project, you have to pick and choose what to focus on, and I think he chose things that rounded out the sport well. A lot of the Red Sox stuff is about the sport's influence outside of the sport (likely due to the fact that a lot of vital talkers for the documentary are writers from New England, which I believe he acknowledges). He spends a good deal of time on Branch Rickey and the Cardinals and the development of the farm system. The 30s episode is almost entirely about the Negro Leagues. He does spend time on the BRM in the 70s, especially the 75 World Series. The last episode focuses on the changing nature of the business of the sport, including collusion, and it makes sense to cover that in a way that spans a few decades (also because it was made in 1994 and probably Burns didn't feel comfortable regarding that era with a completely historical eye yet).

    If anything, the thread running through the whole series is racism's effect on the sport through history, from the beginning through Al Campanis. A project like that has to have a thematic thread (or it should) and can't be about what every single team did each year and blah blah blah, or even just about the WS and so on. It takes a much bigger look at baseball as it relates to society and is a part of it and where it diverged from it. Some teams just had bigger, more obvious roles in that than others. It's not about teams or regions; it's about the sport within the context of American history.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

  6. Likes:

    *BaseClogger* (06-04-2013), RedEye (06-04-2013)

  7. #35
    breath westofyou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    PDX
    Posts
    42,383

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    I'm not a fan of baseball movies much.

    The Natural, Bull Durham and 8 Men out (only one I own but I'm a John Sayles fan)

    The rest meh... hate the comedies the most.

  8. #36
    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    34,346

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    I don't agree with any particular bias in Burns's documentary. I think the East Coast coverage is in line with the area's place in baseball history. To take away from that would be an anti-East Coast bias -- it's just a fact that a huge chunk of the professional sport's history is there.
    You would say that since you're a Yankees fan.
    The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

  9. #37
    breath westofyou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    PDX
    Posts
    42,383

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    I don't agree with any particular bias in Burns's documentary. I think the East Coast coverage is in line with the area's place in baseball history. To take away from that would be an anti-East Coast bias -- it's just a fact that a huge chunk of the professional sport's history is there.

    With such a mammoth project, you have to pick and choose what to focus on, and I think he chose things that rounded out the sport well. A lot of the Red Sox stuff is about the sport's influence outside of the sport (likely due to the fact that a lot of vital talkers for the documentary are writers from New England, which I believe he acknowledges). He spends a good deal of time on Branch Rickey and the Cardinals and the development of the farm system. The 30s episode is almost entirely about the Negro Leagues. He does spend time on the BRM in the 70s, especially the 75 World Series. The last episode focuses on the changing nature of the business of the sport, including collusion, and it makes sense to cover that in a way that spans a few decades (also because it was made in 1994 and probably Burns didn't feel comfortable regarding that era with a completely historical eye yet).

    If anything, the thread running through the whole series is racism's effect on the sport through history, from the beginning through Al Campanis. A project like that has to have a thematic thread (or it should) and can't be about what every single team did each year and blah blah blah, or even just about the WS and so on. It takes a much bigger look at baseball as it relates to society and is a part of it and where it diverged from it. Some teams just had bigger, more obvious roles in that than others. It's not about teams or regions; it's about the sport within the context of American history.
    Kind of hard to have baseball history and not focus on the east coast, as much as I liked his documentary at this point in my life it's all already reported news to me.

  10. #38
    It's showtime! RedEye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    7,941

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I'm not a fan of baseball movies much.

    The Natural, Bull Durham and 8 Men out (only one I own but I'm a John Sayles fan)

    The rest meh... hate the comedies the most.
    I heart Sayles, too. Which others do you like? Lonestar, I presume. Others?
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

  11. #39
    breath westofyou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    PDX
    Posts
    42,383

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I heart Sayles, too. Which others do you like? Lonestar, I presume. Others?
    Love Lonestar... Secrets of Roane Inish was good, Sunshine State.

    He reminds me of Altman, definitely a filmmaker who is black licorice to most... I love black licorice

  12. #40
    Member NebraskaRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Lincoln, NE
    Posts
    1,363

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Love Lonestar... Secrets of Roane Inish was good, Sunshine State.

    He reminds me of Altman, definitely a filmmaker who is black licorice to most... I love black licorice
    Matewan is great, too.

  13. Likes:

    Chip R (06-04-2013), RedEye (06-04-2013)

  14. #41
    It's showtime! RedEye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    7,941

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Love Lonestar... Secrets of Roane Inish was good, Sunshine State.

    He reminds me of Altman, definitely a filmmaker who is black licorice to most... I love black licorice
    Absolutely agree on the Altman comparison, at least in terms of storytelling, though I'd place Altman higher in the pantheon. To risk taking this thread in a off-topic direction for the ORG, Nashville, The Player and Shortcuts are three of my favorite American movies of the past half-century.

    I've actually thought Sayles has been a bit off-track lately... pretty much since Limbo. His recent Amigo is pretty fantastic though.
    Last edited by RedEye; 06-04-2013 at 04:46 PM.
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

  15. #42
    Churlish Johnny Footstool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Olathe, KS
    Posts
    13,783

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    Long Gone is far and away my favorite. Cecil Stud Cantrell was 1000x a better baseball player than CSI supervisor/lead investigator.
    Best climactic at-bat ever.
    "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

  16. Likes:

    Chip R (06-04-2013)

  17. #43
    Posting in Dynarama M2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Location
    Boston
    Posts
    28,160

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Love Lonestar... Secrets of Roane Inish was good, Sunshine State.

    He reminds me of Altman, definitely a filmmaker who is black licorice to most... I love black licorice
    Sayles is an absolute favorite of mine. In fact the best baseball movie never made would be an adaptation of Sayles' book "Pride of the Bimbos."

    Well, that and the "Iowa Baseball Conferderacy," but Sayles could get Peter Dinklage an Oscar if he did "Bimbos."
    Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong

    I'm witchcrafting everybody.

  18. Likes:

    RedEye (06-04-2013)

  19. #44
    It's showtime! RedEye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    7,941

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Sayles is an absolute favorite of mine. In fact the best baseball movie never made would be an adaptation of Sayles' book "Pride of the Bimbos."

    Well, that and the "Iowa Baseball Conferderacy," but Sayles could get Peter Dinklage an Oscar if he did "Bimbos."
    Never read Pride of the Bimbos. One to add to the list!

    Did ya catch Amigos? Curious what others thought. Not met many who have actually seen it; it didn't get very wide distribution, I don't think.
    "Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013

  20. #45
    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    34,346

    Re: Best Baseball Movies/Docs

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Well, that and the "Iowa Baseball Conferderacy," but Sayles could get Peter Dinklage an Oscar if he did "Bimbos."
    I don't think they could ever make a movie out of the Iowa Baseball Confederacy. Too weird. I loved the book but it would be just too tough to make a movie out of. Maybe David Lynch could do it.
    The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25