6/5/2013 Reds v. Rockies (it just got Villareal in here)

[realistic]

if we lose the division by 1 game, itll be because of this throwaway game. this is ridiculous. this guy has no place in the majors. already know we will get to see parra and his .450 opp BA here soon. im goin to bed. up 4-3 and i know we lost this game already

[Blitz Dorsey]

I seem to recall Villarreal was crushed in spring training.

Be careful. Tom Servo might translate that into you calling him a "bum."

[malcontent]

I was having daydreams of Villarreal pitching to a 4.50 ERA.

[Blitz Dorsey]

if we lose the division by 1 game, itll be because of this throwaway game. this is ridiculous. this guy has no place in the majors. already know we will get to see parra and his .450 opp BA here soon. im goin to bed. up 4-3 and i know we lost this game already

You're going to bed? Wow. Do you have to be up at 3 a.m.?

[Tom Servo]

Yep, I called him a "bum."

He's a guy with a 5+ ERA at Triple-A. That's a fact. It's not impressive. Neither is your poor attempt at sarcasm.

I think it was a solid quip. Villareal is what he is, you effectively complaining that we don't have an emergency starter who can pitch like Cueto/Latos/Arroyo/Bailey/Leake is silly.

[realistic]

13 hrs allowed in 1/3 season at louisville, did they call him up so he'd not set the record for hr allowed?

[Kc61]

Villarreal pitching is a total miss management of the organization. Provided, Cueto alerted the team of his issue after his last start. It's just flat out unacceptable.

Strong words, but I agree with this sentiment. As soon as Cueto reported discomfort Cingrani should have been bumped IMO.

The Louisville game Monday was not that important.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Villarreal pitching is a total miss management of the organization. Provided, Cueto alerted the team of his issue after his last start. It's just flat out unacceptable.

if we lose the division by 1 game, itll be because of this throwaway game. this is ridiculous. this guy has no place in the majors. already know we will get to see parra and his .450 opp BA here soon. im goin to bed. up 4-3 and i know we lost this game already

This is what I mean. Is he the best choice...no. But come on, this is just way over the top. Giving up 2 HR's to those 2 hitters and allowing 3 runs against this offense is not "unacceptable". Neither is the Reds not wanting to make a decision on whether or not to DL Cueto until they were sure they needed to. Once they DID decide...their options were limited. No reason to disrupt Tony's start days unless you needed to.

[realistic]

You're going to bed? Wow. Do you have to be up at 3 a.m.?

yeah 4cst, gotta be in nashville by 5. maybe ill stay up and watch the rangers/red sox pitching duel..bizarro world

[Blitz Dorsey]

I think it was a solid quip. Villareal is what he is, you effectively complaining that we don't have an emergency starter who can pitch like Cueto/Latos/Arroyo/Bailey/Leake is silly.

Nice try once again at putting words in my mouth. You're now 0-for-2. I did not lament the fact we do not have someone of Cueto's level (or the rest of our excellent starting staff) to replace Cueto. I said it stinks that we have three good pitchers RIGHT NOW on our Triple-A roster who are good and it's unfortunate that it's Villareal's night to pitch, not one of theirs'. Talking about Cingrani, Galarraga and Reynolds. Just the luck of the draw, but it still stinks that we have a guy not ready for MLB (not even ready for Triple-A) as our starter tonight.

[dubc47834]

if we lose the division by 1 game, itll be because of this throwaway game. this is ridiculous. this guy has no place in the majors. already know we will get to see parra and his .450 opp BA here soon. im goin to bed. up 4-3 and i know we lost this game already

For real guy!!! So the last 2 games that we blew don't matter. When you lose by 1 game, there are many that you COULD look back on and point to.

[kaldaniels]

Helton has had a rough life, Peyton Manning backup at Tennessee, then a really good MLB career. Not too shabby!!!

Poor guy...maybe he will hit the lottery one day.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yep, I called him a "bum."

He's a guy with a 5+ ERA at Triple-A. That's a fact. It's not impressive. Neither is your poor attempt at sarcasm.

And your opinion on Daniel Corcino is?

[Tom Servo]

Nice try once again at putting words in my mouth. You're now 0-for-2. I did not lament the fact we do not have someone of Cueto's level (or the rest of our excellent starting staff) to replace Cueto. I said it stinks that we have three good pitchers RIGHT NOW on our Triple-A roster who are good and it's unfortunate that it's Villareal's night to pitch, not one of theirs'.

And the point that I would make is that any of those three pitchers, or any in our rotation, could give up homeruns to hitters like Gonzalez and Tulowitzki.


Boy, you are awfully testy.

[redsfaninbsg]

This is what I mean. Is he the best choice...no. But come on, this is just way over the top. Giving up 2 HR's to those 2 hitters and allowing 3 runs against this offense is not "unacceptable". Neither is the Reds not wanting to make a decision on whether or not to DL Cueto until they were sure they needed to. Once they DID decide...their options were limited. No reason to disrupt Tony's start days unless you needed to.

You think not disrupting Cingrani's AAA schedule is more important than the Reds, I don't.