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    Bryce Harper and those dreaded three words...

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    The good news is that he's not a pitcher, so he's not visiting with the grim reaper. The bad news is good news rarely comes from a visit to Dr. Andrews.

    "The negative news is that Bryce did a little running in the water and his knee has been swelling up," Nationals manager Davey Johnson said, according to CSNWashington.com. "He's going to see Andrews on Monday. He's probably not going to be available to come off [the DL] when he's supposed to come off."
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    Re: Bryce Harper and those dreaded three words...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
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    The good news is that he's a pitcher, so he's not visiting with the grim reaper. The bad news is good news rarely comes from a visit to Dr. Andrews.



    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/93...ording-reports
    The Nationals are converting Bryce Harper to pitcher?

    Talk about your all time backfires.....


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    The Nationals are converting Bryce Harper to pitcher?

    Talk about your all time backfires.....

    LOL yeah that kind of came out wrong. Should have said "not" a pitcher.
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    Realistically though, you have to wonder if he doesn't wind up getting his knee scoped. With the swelling again, you have to think there is something going on in there beyond normal soreness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Realistically though, you have to wonder if he doesn't wind up getting his knee scoped. With the swelling again, you have to think there is something going on in there beyond normal soreness.
    That was my first thought as well. That's probably a better-case scenario as he could probably be back in a few weeks if that's all it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The Nationals are converting Bryce Harper to pitcher?
    They want to keep him away from the outfield fences.
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    He's going to be a guy who is constantly hurt all through his career. Which will ultimately affect his legacy in the game. When he's on the field he's a generational talent.

    As for the injury I bet it's a torn meniscus, which how does an MRI miss that; which the Nationals said was clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990 View Post
    He's going to be a guy who is constantly hurt all through his career. Which will ultimately affect his legacy in the game. When he's on the field he's a generational talent.

    As for the injury I bet it's a torn meniscus, which how does an MRI miss that; which the Nationals said was clean.
    The guy is 20. How you come to the conclusion that he is going to constantly be hurt, I have no idea.

    With a torn meniscus and the MRI missing it.... I am not a doctor, so I can't tell you how, but it does happen from time to time. It wouldn't be the first time a guy had a second MRI and they saw something they didn't on the first one.

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    Re: Bryce Harper and those dreaded three words...

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The guy is 20. How you come to the conclusion that he is going to constantly be hurt, I have no idea.

    With a torn meniscus and the MRI missing it.... I am not a doctor, so I can't tell you how, but it does happen from time to time. It wouldn't be the first time a guy had a second MRI and they saw something they didn't on the first one.
    I don't want to put words in Ghost's mouth, but I read it as that he plays so hard that he's going to stay banged up a lot. kinda like freel did for the reds (RIP).

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    Re: Bryce Harper and those dreaded three words...

    Geez. The two preseason favorites (Nats and Reds) are having all kinds of injury issues. It's not going the way it was supposed to.

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    Re: Bryce Harper and those dreaded three words...

    Just seems as though Harper is going to miss a large amount of time through the course of his career because he has a violent playing style and he's already stated numerous times he's not willing to play unless he's 100%. Guys are never 100% in baseball season after April. It just doesn't seem like a hard thing to predict.

    I would also like to say other than maybe Mccutchen... Harper is probably my favorite talent in all of baseball that isn't a Red, so I am not piling on. I think he could be the Mickey Mantle of my kid's era if he can stay on the field. Just think he's going to have an injury history that reads like a Tolstoy novel here in a few years. I am concerned about it.
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    Hope it turns out far better for Bryce than it did for Pete Reiser.

    Asking Harper not to go all out, is like asking Larry Bird not to dive to the floor for the loose ball; just not in their DNA to NOT go full bore every time.

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    Re: Bryce Harper and those dreaded three words...

    Any chance he's done for the year?
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    Didn't Harper start out as a catcher?
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    Re: Bryce Harper and those dreaded three words...

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The guy is 20. How you come to the conclusion that he is going to constantly be hurt, I have no idea.

    With a torn meniscus and the MRI missing it.... I am not a doctor, so I can't tell you how, but it does happen from time to time. It wouldn't be the first time a guy had a second MRI and they saw something they didn't on the first one.
    As with our very own Joey Votto.

    I work in medical, so I'll try to explain how this stuff happens to the best of my knowledge:

    It's actually more likely that an MRI sees a meniscus tear that's not there. It's not uncommon for an MRI to show nothing and later on the patient will return with the same, or worse, complaints and they discover major tearing and damage when they scope it. Medical technology is amazing these days, but it's far from being a miracle. MRI's results are leaned on entirely way too much. It should be one tool in an arsenal used to diagnose problems, especially with knees. If a regular joe like me or you went to the doctor and complained about knee problems, you might get an MRI. If it showed nothing, they'd give you a script, tell you to take it easy for awhile, give you some instructions on rehabbing, stretching etc. and tell you to come back if you keep having problems. I'm sure that with multi-million dollar investments, such as athletes, they take no short cuts. Or at least you'd think so. Especially when a doctor doesn't want to be known as the guy who ruined a superstar's career. But even using all precautions, diagnosis is hardly guaranteed. Medicine is still somewhat of a crap shoot.

    Also, knees injuries can be strange. Someone could have a horrid injury, have surgery and never miss a beat afterwards (think Willis McGahee). Or someone could have what first appears to be a minor injury and after the work is done, everything looks like it should be back to 100%, but they go on to have regular issues and are never quite the same.
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