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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Thought this bit from BA was interesting:

    WHERE HE FITS: After Billy Hamilton, Ervin will rank as the system’s top outfielder, as his overall tools package is greater than Jesse Winker’s corner outfield profile.
    Not sure I agree at this point, but that's an interesting observation.

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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Thought this bit from BA was interesting:



    Not sure I agree at this point, but that's an interesting observation.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft...ound-analysis/
    That's interesting...

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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Ervin comps include:

    Rickie Weeks (bat speed, speed/power combo, pedigree)
    Kirby Puckett (all around game, physique)
    Denard Span (defensive approach)
    Andrew McCutcheon (similar swing)
    Shin Soo-Choo (right-handed version)
    Mike Cameron (poor man's version)
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    Re: Phil Ervin

    The new buzzword is "twitchy".

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    Re: Phil Ervin

    I think if he was that close to Kirby Puckett he'd have gone higher in the draft. Such as it is, I'll take Ron Gant or Reggie Sanders like production.
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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Here's a blogpost from back in February which also includes some video clips

    http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013/2/...ord-university
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    Re: Phil Ervin

    And another from a Mets fan's site

    http://macksmets.blogspot.com/2013/0...lip-ervin.html
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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Here's Doug's little blurb on Ervin in a review of possible draftees

    http://redsminorleagues.com/2013/05/...orts-part-one/
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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Just a thought: Could Ervin be Jay Bruce's eventual successor in RF?

    Jay Bruce is getting into his big money years, and I'm not convinced the Reds are getting what they thought they were paying for.
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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Reminds me a bit of Dave Sappelt. Both are the shorter side, but still generate pop with quick bat speed and have a solid all-around game. Ervin looks like he has a better arm and more natural power, so I'm hopeful that he turns out better.
    Interesting comp there. Both short RH hitters with quick, short swings. Both have some speed (though Sappelt has poor instincts, and it seems Ervin's are good). Both can play multiple OF spots.

    Important differences are there, as noted. Agree on all counts.

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    Re: Phil Ervin

    I don't see the Sappelt comp as much mainly because Ervin's arms look a bit longer to me. He's also a different runner, with much less effort.

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    Re: Phil Ervin

    It's also unclear whether or not Ervin can stay in CF. And it's possible Weeks would be at least as good as a defensive CF as Ervin, if in fact he played there.

    I think "poor comp" is a little aggressive.
    Reds consider Ervin a CF for now. We shouldn't assume he'll play himself off the spot, at least not yet. I think it's safe to say he's a solid defender. Weeks could never play CF. Zero arm. Remember, he was a second baseman even in college. At Southern University. Just a brutal defender.

    Sorry for the aggressive tone -- not meant that way.

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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeS21 View Post
    Just a thought: Could Ervin be Jay Bruce's eventual successor in RF?

    Jay Bruce is getting into his big money years, and I'm not convinced the Reds are getting what they thought they were paying for.
    The Reds don't seem to draft that way, esp. in the 1st round, which is a good thing considering the crap shoot that is the draft. The Reds seem to be primarily using best available, esp. in the 1st round, which has been working pretty well to secure both major league talent and used as trade currency. Their run on 1st round picks has been pretty amazing. Homer, Bruce, Stubbs, Alonso, Mes, Frazier, Boxberger, Leake, Grandal. The only one that has not made it to the show is Lotzkar, who was a supplemental 1st round. I'd be curious how that run stacks up against other clubs, but that is an impressive record and is a good return on the investment of a 1st round pick. Let's hope Ervin keeps the run going.
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    Re: Phil Ervin

    Quote Originally Posted by scott91575 View Post
    The guy hit 11 home runs with a wood bat in the Cape Cod league (38 games). He definitely has some power.
    And was the MVP of said league, which is extremely impressive.

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    Re: Phil Ervin

    I'm surprised no one has busted out a Jim Wynn comparison. Right-handed fireplug of a CF with plus power, plus speed and a solid understanding of the strikezone. If Ervin can deliver anything remotely like the Toy Cannon's career, I will be a happy camper.

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