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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    You understand 34 at bats is nothing, right?

    This is the equivolent of saying in 1982 Dexi's Midnight Runners was going to be the best band of the 80s because of the overnight success of "Come on Eileen."
    Fired their drummer in the middle of the video and the new drummer finished shooting the video.

    As for Puig he's already made everyone forget about Joe Peitz and Hercules Burnett

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    I just looked up Joe Peitz. How do you know who that is? Why did he not play any more after that?

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...eitzjo01.shtml

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    What's not to like to this point? I'm interested to see how he does going forward.

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I just looked up Joe Peitz. How do you know who that is? Why did he not play any more after that?

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...eitzjo01.shtml
    You gotta wonder if this guy was even making an effort...what, no pitching stats???

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I just looked up Joe Peitz. How do you know who that is? Why did he not play any more after that?

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...eitzjo01.shtml
    His brother was a Red - Heinie Peitz.

    That year he appeared (1894) was the de facto biggest batting year in the history of the game, lord only knows why he just played that year

    1894 top 25 OPS (qualifiers)

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    OPS                             OPS    
    1    Hugh Duffy                1.196   
    2    Sam Thompson              1.145   
    3    Bill Joyce                1.143   
    4    Joe Kelley                1.104   
    5    Ed Delahanty              1.063   
    6    Billy Hamilton            1.050   
    7    Jake Stenzel              1.022   
    8    Bill Dahlen               1.010   
    9    Dan Brouthers              .985   
    10   Elmer Smith                .974   
    11   George Davis               .972   
    12   Jesse Burkett              .956   
    13   Roger Connor               .952   
    14   Mike Griffin               .952   
    15   Willie Keeler              .944   
    16   Lave Cross                 .944   
    17   Bug Holliday               .942   
    18   George Treadway            .935   
    19   Cupid Childs               .935   
    20   Jake Beckley               .930   
    21   Jimmy Bannon               .928   
    22   Bobby Lowe                 .921   
    23   Ed McKean                  .921   
    24   Jack Doyle                 .917   
    25   Oyster Burns               .912
    ten years later

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    OPS                             OPS    
    1    Honus Wagner               .944   
    2    Frank Chance               .812   
    3    Cy Seymour                 .790   
    4    Jake Beckley               .778   
    5    Roy Thomas                 .761   
    6    Harry Lumley               .759   
    7    John Titus                 .749   
    8    Joe Kelley                 .744   
    9    Dan McGann                 .741   
    10   Sam Mertes                 .739   
    11   Art Devlin                 .725   
    12   Cozy Dolan                 .725   
    13   Jim Delahanty              .721   
    14   Moose McCormick            .720   
    15   Fred Odwell                .713   
    16   Ginger Beaumont            .712   
    17   Miller Huggins             .705   
    18   Dave Brain                 .699   
    19   Homer Smoot                .696   
    20   Fred Tenney                .692   
    21   Claude Ritchey             .686   
    22   Duff Cooley                .684   
    23   George Browne              .679   
    24   Spike Shannon              .667   
    25   Bill Dahlen                .662

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Doug was very insulting to me. Not to mention condescending and arrogant. He speaks as if his opinion is the final and only word that matters with total disrespect to my opinion or others. Hence the need to reference Zach Stewart which points out that he can be wrong too, even though he won't admit it.
    If you found my post very insulting, I just can't imagine how you would react if someone actually insulted you.

    All I did was tell you that you were wrong.

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Is anyone concerned with his lack of walks? He has one BB this year and that doesn't count because it was intentional. I normally wouldn't like seeing that in a player but I'm thinking maybe he's Vlad Guererro and can hit anything above the dirt.

    I think his infamous HBP two nights ago was not intentional because they've seen that he'll swing and miss at high, inside pitches and it missed a little too much. I think pitchers will play with him and see just how far out of the strike zone he'll swing.

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Found this blurb about Heinie Peitz. It is pretty amusing.

    Late in the 1904 season, the Pittsburgh Pirates expressed an interest in acquiring Peitz. The club's president, Hermann, noted at the time:

    "Catchers of the Peitz kind are scarce. I know he is not a Beaumont on his feet, but he is a corking good man for a team because he always knows what to do and how to do it, and what better do you want? A catcher of the Peitz kind runs the whole game from behind the bat. I wish we had him, and if the Reds let him go it would be a serious mistake."[13]

    In February 1905, the Pirates got their opportunity to acquire Peitz and traded Ed Phelps to acquire him from the Reds. He played two years with the Pirates in 1905 and 1906.[1] Peitz quickly became a favorite in Pittsburgh. In March 1905, The Pittsburgh Press reported: "He is already one of the most popular men on the team. Peitz may not be the fastest man in the world on his feet, but he can go some with his tongue. The Cincinnati German is the speediest man by far on the team at repartee."[14]
    A summer watching a bad Reds' team, is still a pretty good summer.

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Fired their drummer in the middle of the video and the new drummer finished shooting the video.
    Could be worse. You could be the drummer for Spinal Tap.
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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...le-yasiel-puig

    This is where we should exhale and plug in some line about small sample size. This is where we remind the readership that Yasiel Puig will most likely not hit 80 home runs in 100 games and that he is not the greatest baseball player of all time. This is where we leak out our most withering sigh and remind ourselves (and Murray Chass) that life is one big regression to the mean. We say, "Enjoy Yasiel Puig while you can" and pat the dumb fans gently on the head.

    This is where we say, "Yasiel Puig has had an unbelievable start. Small sample size, though."

    Or, "Yasiel Puig is a communist Adonis. Sure, it's a small sample size … "

    Or, "Yasiel Puig has hit four home runs in eight games. Small Sample Size Alert!" 1

    As someone who grew up reading Bill James's abstracts and loving the hard line in all debates, I've long been a speaker of these sorts of annoying, almost guttural tics, mostly because of their argumentative value. If you represent reality as inscrutable numbers and bleak outlooks, you'll win most arguments merely by forcing the other side to acknowledge its sentimentality. Way back in 1990, I recall scoffing at a fellow fourth grader and unrepentant Yankees fan who had lost his ****ing mind over Kevin Maas.

    "Remember Sam Horn," I said to my Mucho Maas friend. And the same sentiment went for all fat, slugging first basemen who burn up the happy side of variance in their first few weeks in the bigs.

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    Re: So how about that Yasiel Puig?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    You understand 34 at bats is nothing, right?

    This is the equivolent of saying in 1982 Dexi's Midnight Runners was going to be the best band of the 80s because of the overnight success of "Come on Eileen."
    Wait.

    They were the best band of the 80s and it was solely because of come on Eileen.

    The drummer that was fired was actually an actor and he wasn't replaced in the video, they just did without.
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