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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

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    http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft...d-draft-order/


    So while we wait for further free agent signings, the draft order currently looks like this, assuming Granderson signs with the Mets as is being reported widely:

    First Round

    1. Houston Astros

    2. Miami Marlins

    3. Chicago White Sox

    4. Chicago Cubs

    5. Minnesota Twins

    6. Seattle Mariners

    7. Philadelphia Phillies

    8. Colorado Rockies

    9. Toronto Blue Jays

    10. New York Mets

    11. Toronto Blue Jays (compensation for failure to sign Phil Bickford in ‘13 draft)

    12. Milwaukee Brewers

    13. San Diego Padres

    14. San Francisco Giants

    15. Los Angeles Angels

    16. Arizona Diamondbacks

    x Baltimore Orioles (forfeited for signing Ubaldo Jimenez)

    X. New York Yankees (forfeited for signing Brian McCann)

    17. Kansas City Royals

    18. Washington Nationals

    19. Cincinnati Reds

    x. Texas Rangers (forfeited for signing Shin-Soo Choo)

    20. Tampa Bay Rays

    21. Cleveland Indians

    22. Los Angeles Dodgers

    23. Detroit Tigers

    24. Pittsburgh Pirates

    25. Oakland Athletics

    X- Atlanta Braves (forfeited for signing Ervin Santana)

    26. Boston Red Sox

    27. St. Louis Cardinals

    Compensatory Round

    *Y. Seattle Mariners (Kendry Morales compensation)

    Z. New York Yankees (for losing Robinson Cano)

    ZZ. New York Yankees (for losing Curtis Granderson)

    *28. Kansas City Royals (awarded for losing Ervin Santana)

    *29. Cincinnati Reds (awarded for losing Shin-Soo Choo)

    *30. Texas Rangers (awarded for losing Nelson Cruz)

    *31. Miami Marlins (compensation for failure to sign Matt Krook in ‘13 draft)

    *32. Cleveland Indians (awarded for losing Ubaldo Jimenez)

    33. Atlanta Braves (awarded for losing Brian McCann)

    34. Boston Red Sox (awarded for losing Jacoby Ellsbury)

    *35. Boston Red Sox (Stephen Drew)

    *36. St. Louis Cardinals (awarded for losing Carlos Beltran)

    X Lost for signing free agent Brian McCann

    Y Lost for signing free agent Robinson Cano, will revert to second-round pick if Morales resigns with Mariners

    Updated with Atlanta Braves losing draft pick #26 for signing Ervin Santana. Kansas City Royals (awarded #28 for losing Nelson Cruz)
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Here's my question to the group: do you draft for need? I know every thinking person says to draft for talent, not need. But consarnit, the Reds have a pretty nice system that is completely BEREFT of middle infielders.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    I think it's okay to do it now when you consider how much teams value the first round picks now.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Pitching is always #1 in my opinion. But if position players are ranked higher at that slot I would grab the best MI or catcher. Reds are really flush with good OF candidates from AA down the ladder. Even catching has signs of life but good catchers are scarce, too. My only qualm is for crying out loud pick a MI with the potential to hit! That's a problem with MI, quite often the best ones are glove over bat even as prospects.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Here's my question to the group: do you draft for need? I know every thinking person says to draft for talent, not need. But consarnit, the Reds have a pretty nice system that is completely BEREFT of middle infielders.
    I wouldn't draft for need. I might let need play tiebreaker if I was between two kids high in the draft. I might let need guide me a bit in rounds 3-7. Yet, and I say this as a someone with an incurable SS addiction, I wouldn't draft a SS in the 1st round just to have a SS. I'd rather collect Cory Thompsons and Carlton Daals in the hopes that one pans out.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    I guess I'm trying to talk myself into Nick Gordon, who I don't really like, but may fall to #19.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I guess I'm trying to talk myself into Nick Gordon, who I don't really like, but may fall to #19.
    I'd stick with the "don't really like" part and skip the talking into part. I haven't paid that much attention to Gordon yet, but he's generally well-regarded. Matt Garrioch's first mock draft has him going #7 to the Phillies. Garrioch tends to focus more on where a kid should go than where a kid will go. BA is generally the best for "will go."

    I suspect Gordon's stock will need to drop for him to be around for the Reds' pick. So, if you're right about him, maybe he'll Matt Bush a spot ahead of the Reds.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Agreed. At this point, the only first round SS in this draft is Trea Turner in my book. Very likely others will go, but he's the only real one I'd be interested in. Otherwise I'd start considering other guys (like Ti'quan Forbes) at 29 or later.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    I have seen a lot of the Top 10 names IP mention in mock draft and I think Luke Weaver, Aaron Nola, and Derek Swisher move up with Hoffman moving out of the Top 10.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Strength at the top of this draft is supposedly arms. Reds should grab the best one they can get at 19, then see what drops to 29, IMO.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Strength at the top of this draft is supposedly arms. Reds should grab the best one they can get at 19, then see what drops to 29, IMO.
    Solid gameplan. I've got a yen for Justus Sheffield - prep southpaw from Tennessee with three plus-pitch potential.
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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Jose Inglesias has a shin injury that may shelve him for most of the season. Could lead Detroit to make a move on Stephen Drew. Wouldn't affect our pick at 19, but would move our comp pick up to #28 if they do indeed sign him. If so, and someone with an exposed 1st signs Morales we would end up at 27 (the same spot that netted us BobbySteve, IIRC).

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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Go BPA in the draft. The Reds need to hit big on the first 2 picks especially. Pitching, Pitching and Pitching. I also want a SS that can hit, a projectable bat with solid D.

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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    You always consider the best player available so take this with a grain of salt.

    But nail the 2 top-30 picks with polished guys ala Ervin and the farm system would be in significantly better shape.

    And in other obvious news, the earth is round.

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    Re: Looking Ahead: 2014 Draft

    Even if you have Mike Trout, you still draft a center fielder if it's the best player available.

    You never know how this game goes--it could be five years or more before the drafted player is doing anything significant in the majors. By then, injuries and contract questions could easily push your franchise player elsewhere. If so, you have an insurance policy. If not, teams are always looking for prospects. You'd then trade for established veterans with more consistent output.

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