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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...orsemi01.shtml

    Morse is righthanded.

    Kind of funny. So many people are dogging Morse, that he's no good. But then when someone proposes a deal to get him, they say the M's will want more than that.

    If Morse isn't that good, it shouldn't take much to get him. Especially as a rental.

    2011 - .303/.360/.550/.910, 31 HR's - 146 games
    2012 - .291/.321/.470/.791, 18 HR's - 102 games
    Currently hitting in a pitcher's park. Might give his offense a jolt hitting in GABP.

    Neftali Soto has no future with the Reds. He'll be a 1B or DH in the majors. He's a 4A player right now. I'd offer him straight up for Morse.

    If they say no, no big deal.
    I meant left fielder not left handed. We've been fine with unexpected production from Paul/Robinson/Heisey but sustaining that is questionable. Morse could solidify that. His value is lower than it's been in years so maaaaaaybe this could happen? I would be extremely happy if it did.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    The LF bunch has given the team the following line:

    .261/.333/.386/.719
    6 HR
    30 RBI
    27 RS
    4 SB
    271 TPA

    13th in OPS in the NL (NL average for LF .781)
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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Why would the M's want to trade a cheap useful player for a cheap questionably useful one?
    I'm sure there's plenty of M's fans clamoring to "get value" out of Morse, just like there were fans here clamoring to trade Ramon Hernandez in his last year here.

    Not saying it's completely flawed or correct.. but Morse is struggling there, not much use for him in the short term or long term..
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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    I'm sure there's plenty of M's fans clamoring to "get value" out of Morse, just like there were fans here clamoring to trade Ramon Hernandez in his last year here.

    Not saying it's completely flawed or correct.. but Morse is struggling there, not much use for him in the short term or long term..
    Yeah, I buy that. I guess I'm just not sure that Neftali Soto has enough of the value they'd be hoping for.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Yeah, I buy that. I guess I'm just not sure that Neftali Soto has enough of the value they'd be hoping for.

    That's true as well.
    I can see the argument that trading Morse for scraps (and they aren't likely to get more than scraps) is hardly worth Seattle's effort.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    The LF bunch has given the team the following line:

    .261/.333/.386/.719
    6 HR
    30 RBI
    27 RS
    4 SB
    271 TPA

    13th in OPS in the NL (NL average for LF .781)
    A chunk of that includes Heisey's horrible April. The question is what to expect from a Paul/Robinson platoon going forward.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    A chunk of that includes Heisey's horrible April. The question is what to expect from a Paul/Robinson platoon going forward.
    I can't imagine it would be much better than this. And I'm okay with that for now.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    BTW, there is absolutely no reason to expect D-Rob to continue producing at the current level. Zero reason. Of all the current LF options, he is by far the most likely to end up being a "Juan Castro-esque out." His OPS at AAA was .668.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    BTW, there is absolutely no reason to expect D-Rob to continue producing at the current level. Zero reason. Of all the current LF options, he is by far the most likely to end up being a "Juan Castro-esque out." His OPS at AAA was .668.
    I agree. DRobb has been a pleasant surprise so far, but he doesn't have the power to continue this success.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    If you want a LF, how about one that is hitting this line:

    .305 .402 .684 20 HR's 29 BB's in 174 AB's.

    Anyone remember Wladimir Balentien?
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

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    Yes! Where is he?
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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Balentein is becoming a Japanese legend.

    Never understood why the Reds got rid of him.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Balentein is becoming a Japanese legend.

    Never understood why the Reds got rid of him.
    There were probably several things that went into the decision one of which was that he really wasn't that good.
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    Re: Yahoo: Reds should trade for Morse and Perez

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    There were probably several things that went into the decision one of which was that he really wasn't that good.
    I disagree. On the not that good part. He was young, had power potential, was controllable and cheap.

    IMO there was an underlying issue. Dunno what, but something. If he were 30 at the time, just breaking in, maybe.
    Suck it up cupcake.


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