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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I agree with this. I know his lifetime stats are better as a 4 hitter, but I have always thought BP would be a much better 2 or 6 hitter. Take away the traditional pressure for cleanup RBI and I think eventually you see BP play much more within himself. The tragedy of Ludwick's injury we talk about less.
    I disagree overall. But agree with the poster who said BP was swinging for the fence in that at-bat.

    But for the season, I've seen BP concentrate more on simply getting the run in rather than hitting it out. It's been refreshing.

    He might be pressing a bit since he missed a bunch of games and fell out of the lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Raindog View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    He has over 450 career ABs in the top 4 spots in the order, and his best spot statistically is cleanup.

    There's not a whole lot to back this up.
    Yeah, I know, that's why I mentioned his cleanup stats in the post. Still, he has way more PA's there than anywhere else -- and the other positions in the order border on small samples, IIRC.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by UCBrownsfan View Post
    Yet only has 10 BB's all year, Cesar Izturis has 7 in a quarter of the AB's
    Yes, Brandon Phillips does not walk a lot.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    That's fine. Disagree with it all you want, but I told you why he did it.

    For the record, Cozart has struck out the 2nd least of the everyday players.
    How effective has he been as a hitter this year?

    What a lot of people don't realize is that when a hit and run is put on, it puts a lot of pressure on a batter. The strategy seems sound...but this is not always the case.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Yeah, I know, that's why I mentioned his cleanup stats in the post. Still, he has way more PA's there than anywhere else -- and the other positions in the order border on small samples, IIRC.
    I think he's pretty much the same hitter no matter where you put him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Yes, Brandon Phillips does not walk a lot.
    Never been his strength. He doesn't believe in OBP.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski View Post
    How effective has he been as a hitter this year?

    What a lot of people don't realize is that when a hit and run is put on, it puts a lot of pressure on a batter. The strategy seems sound...but this is not always the case.
    It also opens up a gigantic hole in the middle of the field. If you have a hitter who is struggling but does a fairly decent job of putting the ball in play, it would seem to be a decent strategy, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    I think he's pretty much the same hitter no matter where you put him.
    Ah, okay, I thought you were arguing he was better in the cleanup spot.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Let's put Chapman in and start the beanfest.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Ah, okay, I thought you were arguing he was better in the cleanup spot.
    His numbers throughout the lineup are all in the same neighborhood. I think the "he's trying to swing for the fences" thing batting cleanup is way overblown.

    He always tries to swing for the downs at times.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    Morton is juts the type of pitcher who never really throws you a strike Even 2-0, 2-1 and 3-1.....guys like BP, Frazier, Bruce...will swing when it is still borderline. Now if Darling is giving him a wide zone, then what can you do. And Cozart? He barely lets a pitcher go 1-1 on him let alone 2-0.

    Reminds me of Jon Lieber a few years ago when he would make short work of the Reds in less than 100 pitches.

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    Those VW test drive commercials are pretty good too.
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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    I've been arguing for more playing time for Mes. After the last two nights, I'll find Hanigan a refreshing change tomorrow.

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    Re: 6/18/2013 Bucs at Reds

    I'm out fellas...like a fat kid in dodgeball!!!


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