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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Yeah, my take was why Simon? He set up the need to battle the Pirates LH guys, sort of backed the Reds into a corner to have to use a LH and well...
    it was him or Hoover. A Hobson's choice. And whover he didn't bring in for the 7th would have to pitch the 8th. Don't see the big deal.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    You're the one guy here who did not second guess so kudos for that. I'm still not convinced a tired Simon is all that worse than a fresh Hoover. In any event, if the offense would put some runs on the board, the bullpen wouldn't be so used up.
    Hoover did pitch well, although it was a non-pressure situation so we can't be sure of anything.

    My rule would be that guys like Marshall, Chapman, maybe even Broxton pitch their normal roles if they can. Even if a bit tired. High level relievers if healthy.

    But when you're dealing with guys like Alfredo Simon, I'd rather have a rested Hoover. Simon isn't at the high level that warrants use when tired.

    I do believe the Reds would have won today if Dusty had played it my way. But we'll never know and it is what it is.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    it was him or Hoover. A Hobson's choice. And whover he didn't bring in for the 7th would have to pitch the 8th. Don't see the big deal.
    Coin flip move I suppose, alas... the game she is a hard mistress

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Coin flip move I suppose, alas... the game she is a hard mistress
    Not a coin flip if you are trying to keep Simon rested and healthy.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    If they had pitched Chapman in the first inning yesterday, we might have had a shot in that game.
    Yes! Because that would mean he is in the starting rotation!

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Not a coin flip if you are trying to keep Simon rested and healthy.
    Yes, and no reason why Hoover can't go two innings, a former starter.

    I hate situations like this because it seems so obvious to me, a guy typing on a computer, yet it goes the other way and fails.

    Oh well, I'll focus on the NBA tonight. Game over.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    it was him or Hoover. A Hobson's choice. And whover he didn't bring in for the 7th would have to pitch the 8th. Don't see the big deal.
    And it wasn't like Simon got hammered. Two ground ball singles between ss and 3b. The walk was his biggest mistake.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Hoover did pitch well, although it was a non-pressure situation so we can't be sure of anything.

    My rule would be that guys like Marshall, Chapman, maybe even Broxton pitch their normal roles if they can. Even if a bit tired. High level relievers if healthy.

    But when you're dealing with guys like Alfredo Simon, I'd rather have a rested Hoover. Simon isn't at the high level that warrants use when tired.

    I do believe the Reds would have won today if Dusty had played it my way. But we'll never know and it is what it is.
    All true, but Simon has proved to me he is a warrior and a veteran. Hoover is an erratic kid. In any event lets say Hoover had gotten them in the 7th. Wouldn't Simon have to pitch the 8th anyhow?

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    We're bad again. Go get Arizona.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Not a coin flip if you are trying to keep Simon rested and healthy.
    True, but when they call to BP Corky relays who's looking better... and lord knows Peterson has a hand in this as well.

    Gotta wonder if when it comes to those two who scares them the most and why.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Coin flip move I suppose, alas... the game she is a hard mistress
    Your attempts at giving perspective and context to the game of baseball on this board recently has been duly noted. Unfortunately, you'll have more results and more fun banging your head against a brick wall.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Good game everyone. Good series. Should be a fun race the rest of the year.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Yes, and no reason why Hoover can't go two innings, a former starter.
    That's where i think your argument falls apart.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    All true, but Simon has proved to me he is a warrior and a veteran. Hoover is an erratic kid. In any event lets say Hoover had gotten them in the 7th. Wouldn't Simon have to pitch the 8th anyhow?
    Nothing like adjectives and clichés to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. Because veterans are always warriors. And kids? They're erratic.

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    Re: 6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

    I'm still predicting the Reds win the division by double digits.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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