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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    The best part of this game for me, in all seriousness, is that 2 "closers" blew it for their team in the same inning. Tough for Corbin and Leake both of whom (I acknowledge they were both hit for) probably could have finished the game off on their own. I've no doubt Corbin could have anyway. Get rid of these pre-ordained closers and just go with the better matchup (not that the Reds have a lot of options out of the pen these days).

    Votto, btw needs to find a position that's not 1st if he's going to butcher it as he has the last 6 weeks or so.
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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    I think his hitting is fine. NO way is he like Sean Casey as a hitter. Please. The guy was not a 35-40 HR guy. He is and can be a 30 homer guy, but he will hit better than Casey overall. Now his glove...that i will give you is just complete botch job.

    It is like Steve Sax back in 1983.
    I'm not convinced Votto will consistently be a 30 home run guys moving forward with his career

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Reds. Good team, something missing.
    I continue to believe it's leadership that's missing. The talent is there.
    "I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    Then why doesn't dusty/price recognize bad chapman earlier. He rarely rebounds when he starts an inning wildly. Know your players. Have backup pitcher start getting ready when wild chapman lets first batter on. Hell, he almost took off mesoracos face on a warmup pitch. Fox noticed it ...
    No one could have possibly warmed up that fast to cover Chapman.....BEFORE he even started facing a batter. Not even Sidd Finch.

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    6/22/12 Reds are 38-31

    6/22/13 Reds are 44-32
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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    This isn't 2012. What was the cards record last year at this point?
    162-0 by the sound of most posters here.
    Is it "next season" yet?

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    I think his hitting is fine. NO way is he like Sean Casey as a hitter. Please. The guy was not a 35-40 HR guy. He is and can be a 30 homer guy, but he will hit better than Casey overall. Now his glove...that i will give you is just complete botch job.

    It is like Steve Sax back in 1983.
    Sax couldn't throw.....but Votto at 1st the past week looks like Yonder in LF.

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    The sample of games against "quality" teams you're referencing is indeed a small sample. It amounts to about 40 games. That would be the second week of May if it were played consecutively. That is most definitely a small sample.
    And you probably play about 80 quality games a year. They are halfway through. They are a good team but they don't appear to have what it takes to win it all. But all you have to do is get to the playoffs and get hot. They will probably have a chance to do that.

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    This isn't 2012. What was the cards record last year at this point?
    It isn't???? Man, I really gotta start getting out of the house.

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    Then why doesn't dusty/price recognize bad chapman earlier. He rarely rebounds when he starts an inning wildly. Know your players. Have backup pitcher start getting ready when wild chapman lets first batter on. Hell, he almost took off mesoracos face on a warmup pitch. Fox noticed it ...
    They didnt have any 20 second timeouts left to warmup the back up the backup QB....my bad wrong sport

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    I am sooooo glad I went to see World War Z instead of following this mess on gameday.

    PS - If you have read the book the movie is literally nothing like it, but it is enjoyable as a zombie flick.

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    I know why we lost!!!!

    Stubbs hasn't scored today.
    Well we cannot blame him anymore......

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    Yep. He got visibly upset after that error. Had the 1st guy been out, I think he wouldn't have melted down.
    Yeah, but sometimes you have to pick up your teammate when they make an error/miscue. Votto probably should have fielded that (even though it was ruled a hit), but Chapman needs to sack up and say, "It's OK Joey, I got the [bleep] [bleep]."

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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    He's been slumping with the glove all of 2013. I'm sorry, I understand I am being knee jerky, but Votto has not shown me much since he came back from his knee injury last year. He has an excellent eye and gets on base better than just about anybody but something just does not seem right. atrocious defense, home runs are down. Sean Casey with a better eye and slightly more power?

    Sooooo much money. Am I the only person nervous this may quickly become the worst contract in baseball?
    I think Votto has a very solid glove. Gold glove caliber? Not really. He just had a very good year when he won it I think. But yes, he's been worse than normal over there.

    Home runs are down though? Not seeing that at all. His HR totals are strong right now.
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    Re: 6/22/2013 Reds at Dbacks....Game 2

    Quote Originally Posted by reds700 View Post
    And you probably play about 80 quality games a year. They are halfway through. They are a good team but they don't appear to have what it takes to win it all. But all you have to do is get to the playoffs and get hot. They will probably have a chance to do that.
    And the other half are played against bad teams. If the Reds duplicate what they're doing so far in the second half of the season, they'll finish with 94 wins and a highly probable playoff berth.

    So it goes to show that fretting over a subset of 40 games is really missing the big picture.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda


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