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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones1 View Post
    How bout Marlon Byrd. He could come real cheap, plays all 3 OF spots well and has put up very good numbers this season. He's also one of the best at hitting with runners in scoring position this season in MLB. When Ludwick comes back he can play a bench role and wont cost the Reds a top prospect. Hes only getting paid 700k this season as well an the Mets are going no where. Perfect candidate IMHO.

    Signed to a minor-league contract over the offseason, Byrd is 35 and owed just $280,000 for the remainder the season, an attractive price tag. Due to his age, he does not figure to be in the Metsí long-term plans.

    Since he began playing every day on June 1, Byrd is hitting .299 with nine home runs, 27 RBI and a .899 on-base-plus-slugging percentage. His 15 home runs ó five shy of a career high ó and 51 RBI lead the Mets. Defensively, he has posted six outfield assists.

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    Agree that Byrd may be a good idea. Mets are said to want something significant for him though. Wonder if somebody like Partch would be enough. Or Robinson for that matter. Doubt you'd get him for a fringe minor leaguer.

    I'd deal Robinson for Byrd right now and be pretty happy about it. Heck I'd kick in one of the 40 man roster clutter guys if the Mets want. Ravin or Lotzkar? No problem, take them both.
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    Re: Official Trade Deadline Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Agree that Byrd may be a good idea. Mets are said to want something significant for him though. Wonder if somebody like Partch would be enough. Or Robinson for that matter. Doubt you'd get him for a fringe minor leaguer.

    I'd deal Robinson for Byrd right now and be pretty happy about it. Heck I'd kick in one of the 40 man roster clutter guys if the Mets want. Ravin or Lotzkar? No problem, take them both.
    I'd do any of the guys you mentioned. However I'm not sure Marlon Byrd by himself gets this team over the edge.
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    Agree that Byrd may be a good idea. Mets are said to want something significant for him though. Wonder if somebody like Partch would be enough. Or Robinson for that matter. Doubt you'd get him for a fringe minor leaguer.

    I'd deal Robinson for Byrd right now and be pretty happy about it. Heck I'd kick in one of the 40 man roster clutter guys if the Mets want. Ravin or Lotzkar? No problem, take them both.
    The Mets are unusual. They play in a tough market. They won't just trade off salary at this point. They feel compelled to be decent. Lot of pressure on them.

    They are probably a lousy team to trade with. They will want too much IMO.

    I doubt any of the names mentioned will do it for Byrd or any player of value on the team. From Mets perspective they have a weak outfield. Trading Byrd just makes it weaker.

    At the deadline they would trade, but my guess is they would ask for someone like Yorman Rodriguez.

    Reds would be better off dealing with a team in more of a fire sale mode. Just an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Agree that Byrd may be a good idea. Mets are said to want something significant for him though. Wonder if somebody like Partch would be enough. Or Robinson for that matter. Doubt you'd get him for a fringe minor leaguer.

    I'd deal Robinson for Byrd right now and be pretty happy about it. Heck I'd kick in one of the 40 man roster clutter guys if the Mets want. Ravin or Lotzkar? No problem, take them both.
    So you'd trade the Reds' sixth outfielder/AAAA player for the guy who is second on the Mets in OPS? Really? Man, I'm not sure I'd make that deal. Robinson AND Lotzkar? Oh, wait, yeah, that'll get it done.

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    Do we really expect a Robinson or a Partch to fetch a Byrd? Seems unlikely to me, at best.
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    Robinson is 25, cheap has speed, defense and has gotten on base this year at an OK rate. Partch throws in the upper 90s. Byrd is in his mid-30s and doesn't have much value to the Mets. If I was the Mets I wouldn't want Robinson (but given their thin OF they may want a 25 y/o with some tools), but I'd deal Byrd for Partch unless I could get a better offer elsewhere. That's really it. There isn't much reason to keep Byrd from the Mets perspective at this point (though I acknowledge KC's logic seems to be how the Mets have played it so far).

    I have doubts that the Mets would get much more given Byrd's situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    The Mets are unusual. They play in a tough market. They won't just trade off salary at this point. They feel compelled to be decent. Lot of pressure on them.

    They are probably a lousy team to trade with. They will want too much IMO.

    I doubt any of the names mentioned will do it for Byrd or any player of value on the team. From Mets perspective they have a weak outfield. Trading Byrd just makes it weaker.

    At the deadline they would trade, but my guess is they would ask for someone like Yorman Rodriguez.

    Reds would be better off dealing with a team in more of a fire sale mode. Just an opinion.
    I'd guess the number of teams in fire sale mode would be close to zero. The market is so remarkably different from even five years ago. I don't see the Mets being hesitant to trade Byrd, honestly. They're bad this season, the fan base knows it, and nobody's going to raise a stink. The Mets are talent thin all over, so they'll probably want more than just Partch, but they won't demand anything of real value, just a handful of minor league scratch off tickets.

    Though the Mets aren't the brightest franchise, so they may just cling to the hope they're not still a financial and managerial mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Robinson is 25, cheap has speed, defense and has gotten on base this year at an OK rate. Partch throws in the upper 90s. Byrd is in his mid-30s and doesn't have much value to the Mets. If I was the Mets I wouldn't want Robinson (but given their thin OF they may want a 25 y/o with some tools), but I'd deal Byrd for Partch unless I could get a better offer elsewhere. That's really it. There isn't much reason to keep Byrd from the Mets perspective at this point (though I acknowledge KC's logic seems to be how the Mets have played it so far).

    I have doubts that the Mets would get much more given Byrd's situation.
    Also not sure Reds want to trade Partch right now. Bullpen depth is problematic with all the injuries. He now has some MLB experience and provides insurance.

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    Also not sure Reds want to trade Partch right now. Bullpen depth is problematic with all the injuries. He now has some MLB experience and provides insurance.
    I think the Reds need to make 2 deals. Veteran bullpen guys are out there. The Reds need to take a minor leaguer or two and go get one. Then they need to make a young hard thrower with late inning/closer potential available for an OF bat. Hoover is probably the guy who would get the most action, but Partch has potential and would be as much as I'd go for Byrd. I'd happily deal Hoover for somebody better. The Reds need to pick-up the vet reliever first though.
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    Partch is not going to be a center piece of any trade. He is a loogy right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexad View Post
    Partch is not going to be a center piece of any trade. He is a loogy right now.
    RH LOOGY? Sure. You're probably right on what he could fetch though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexad View Post
    Partch is not going to be a center piece of any trade. He is a loogy right now.
    Except he's a right hander.

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    I'd guess the number of teams in fire sale mode would be close to zero. The market is so remarkably different from even five years ago. I don't see the Mets being hesitant to trade Byrd, honestly. They're bad this season, the fan base knows it, and nobody's going to raise a stink. The Mets are talent thin all over, so they'll probably want more than just Partch, but they won't demand anything of real value, just a handful of minor league scratch off tickets.

    Though the Mets aren't the brightest franchise, so they may just cling to the hope they're not still a financial and managerial mess.
    The Mets have a big public relations problem. Selling off decent players for non-prospects will only make it worse.

    This isn't the usual trade deadline, get rid of salary, get what you can in return situation.

    But we'll see what they do if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexad View Post
    Partch is not going to be a center piece of any trade. He is a loogy right now.
    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    RH LOOGY? Sure. You're probably right on what he could fetch though.
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    Byrd hit another HR today. Lets go get this guy. Players like Rios and Young will require the moon.


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