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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    If Cueto was good because of his wind up every pitcher would throw like he does.

    It has very little, if anything, to do with his wind up.
    Well, if you look at his career I am not so sure this is correct. He started using the windup in 2011.

    2008: 4.81 ERA , 1.414 WHIP
    2009: 4.41 ERA, 1.36 WHIP
    2010: 3.64 ERA, 1.276 WHIP
    2011 (windup year): 2.31 ERA, 1.090 WHIP
    2012: 2.78 ERA, 1.171 WHIP
    2013: 3.21 ERA, 1.049 WHIP

    There was a significant drop in his numbers across the board the year he began using the windup. It hides the ball well and keeps hitters off balance. Hopefully he does not need the windup to be as effective as he has been but I am not convinced that is the case. I will believe it when I see it.

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Robinson strikes out swinging

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    stay away from 2 outs and maybe the Reds will score.

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    That's not necessarily true. It might be a deception thing that his pitches were lacking. Or a timing thing that he needed to be able to have a consistently repeatable delivery. Who knows.
    Or he probably just got better because his first two years in the majors he was 22 and 23 and players tend to progress after that.
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    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    I wouldn't be surprised if DRob doesn't get a hit the rest of the season. Looks like the league has figured him out.
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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Well, if you look at his career I am not so sure this is correct. He started using the windup in 2011.

    2008: 4.81 ERA , 1.414 WHIP
    2009: 4.41 ERA, 1.36 WHIP
    2010: 3.64 ERA, 1.276 WHIP
    2011 (windup year): 2.31 ERA, 1.090 WHIP
    2012: 2.78 ERA, 1.171 WHIP
    2013: 3.21 ERA, 1.049 WHIP

    There was a significant drop in his numbers across the board the year he began using the windup. It hides the ball well and keeps hitters off balance. Hopefully he does not need the windup to be as effective as he has been but I am not convinced that is the case. I will believe it when I see it.
    He also turned 25 in 2011, and he had a pretty good 2010 season as a 24 year old.

    Wind up or whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    I have little faith in the Reds winning tonight but, it would be nice to see A RUN.
    This is the ol Left Hander rounding third and heading for home.

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Choo grounds out to 2nd

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Or he probably just got better because his first two years in the majors he was 22 and 23 and players tend to progress after that.
    Could be, but the one very game where it was noticed he started doing that is when he really started having an amazing year in 2011.
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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    awful AB by DRob. Paul could've done better.

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Tom Petty wrote a song about this team.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    OK -- maybe Choo is not the one I want to sign now
    The older I get - the better I was

    and yes - I hate the Cardinals (Reds fan since 1958)

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    I totally think Phillips and Choo are going to OPS in the .500's and Votto is going to OPS in the low 800's like they have in June.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiko View Post
    awful AB by DRob. Paul could've done better.
    He shouldn't be here but who should replace him?
    The older I get - the better I was

    and yes - I hate the Cardinals (Reds fan since 1958)

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    Re: Friday June 28, 2013 Reds @ Texas 8:05 PM Eastern

    When was the last big hit Votto has had? :/


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