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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Factoring what into your decision exactly? The fact that a player might have done PEDs at some point? That's sort of the case with all professional athletes, is it not? Short of some concrete evidence, I don't think a GM would have much to decide.
    I think any GM would, if they had suspicions, play that into their decision. There is going to be a cost/benefit analysis done on a player and maybe they won't go 7/140 for the guy but maybe they think 6/90 is worth it b/c of the perceived risks. Or maybe they won't touch the guy period.

    ARod's contract alone will scare tons of GMs just by mentioning it in conversation.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    I think any GM would, if they had suspicions, play that into their decision. There is going to be a cost/benefit analysis done on a player and maybe they won't go 7/140 for the guy but maybe they think 6/90 is worth it b/c of the perceived risks. Or maybe they won't touch the guy period.

    ARod's contract alone will scare tons of GMs just by mentioning it in conversation.
    Again, it depends on where those suspicions come from IMO. Or rather, whether the GM deems his suspicions legitimate. Given that almost every player is a potential user, and that there is no reliable connection between physique and substance abuse per se, I suppose each individual probably has a litmus test of some sort, based on different types of evidence that is available at the time. I would doubt that many GMs just look at stats though.

    A-Rod's contract was problematic for all kinds of reasons not necessarily limited to potential PED use. But yeah, it will certainly be a negative standard moving forward on this topic.
    Last edited by RedEye; 07-17-2013 at 03:27 PM.

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    Re: Chris Davis

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    Re: Chris Davis

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    Love that symbol. Partial to this one, too: ?

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Love that symbol. Partial to this one, too: ?
    I consider it an accident stroke of genius symbolic of the Chris Davis thread lol
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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    I think the rule of thumb is however long it takes to "prove" your point.
    I think the rule of thumb is however long it takes for your answer to be trustworthy.
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    Re: Chris Davis

    Tim Kirkjian just had an excellent interview segment with Davis on Baseball Tonight. Including this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Kirkjian
    His epic, breakthrough 2013 season -- he's on a pace for 62 home runs -- has raised the inevitable question about performance enhancing drugs.

    People will say, anyone who makes this kind of jump has to have some sort of PED connection. What is your answer to that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Davis
    I've always kinda hoped that I could be that guy that people could look at and say, "man, this guy did it the right way." So, you know, time will tell, but I obviously don't have anything to worry about.
    Props to RZ for being way out in front on this inevitable question.
    Last edited by Norm Chortleton; 07-18-2013 at 11:57 PM.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    Props to RZ for being way out in front on this inevitable question.
    The question may be inevitable, but the argumentation doesn't have to be poor. Too many times, the inevitability of the question just means banging our heads against the same black boxes.
    Last edited by RedEye; 07-19-2013 at 07:03 PM.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Davis is 8-39 since the All-Star Break with no homers and 20 K.

    So... yeah.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Davis is 8-39 since the All-Star Break with no homers and 20 K.

    So... yeah.
    It's the HR Derby, it messes with guy's swings...
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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    It's the HR Derby, it messes with guy's swings...
    Yep. I'm perfectly fine without any Reds ever playing in it.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    HR Derby affecting guys' swing is an urban legend. It's glorified BP for most players. Baseball coaches used to say the same thing (religiously) about weight training.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Chris Davis

    And of course Chris Davis hit a 2-run homer just a bit ago.
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    Re: Chris Davis

    And Davis just homered.
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