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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    I thought they added HGH testing this year.
    They have been testing for it in the minors since 2010, when Davis spent nearly a full season down there.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    There was that Lance Armstrong guy who passed every doping test he ever took...
    And there were people lined up around the World saying they had actual evidence he was doping, had seen him do it, written books on it.....

    Huge difference between that and Chris Davis.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    Which proves that players' chemists >>>>>>> league chemists.
    Yes that is proof, bravo!!


    Or not

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Yes that is proof, bravo!!


    Or not
    You believe there are only 3.75 players on MLB active rosters who are using? OK.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    When we've seen players of recent history break home run records or have huge spikes in production, the majority of the time we have later found out they were doing it with some help.

    Is it fair to Chris Davis? No, but if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, people are going to assume it's a rat.
    Of course the question is, has Chris Davis seen a huge spike in skill, rather than production?

    As a 21-year-old in the minor leagues he hit 36 doubles and 35 home runs in just under 500 at bats. That kind of power is virtually unheard of. At 22-years-old he hit 21 doubles and 23 home runs in just under 300 at bats.

    So, as a very young player he hit 57 doubles and 58 home runs in 792 at bats (along with 4 triples). So he was averaging an XBH at age 21 and 22 every 6.65 at bats.

    Fastforward to his "prime" for power output and he is now averaging an XBH every 5.36 at bats.

    That doesn't fit the "massive improvement out of nowhere" category for me.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    You believe there are only 3.75 players on MLB active rosters who are using? OK.
    I don't believe anything because I don't have a full view of all the information.

    I'm kinda funny that way.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I don't believe anything because I don't have a full view of all the information.

    I'm kinda funny that way.
    1. What information do you need?
    2. What is your opinion of the Selig stat you quoted?

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Chris Davis says the record he's chasing is 61 home runs. Votto disagrees.

    "If Chris feels like 61 is the home run record, maybe he’s just selfishly pegging that number as the home run record so if he passes it he can wear a crown or something like that, there would be a lot of money in that."

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chris-d...024447378.html
    Last edited by Donder; 07-16-2013 at 01:00 PM. Reason: forgot the link

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    1. What information do you need?
    2. What is your opinion of the Selig stat you quoted?
    1 - All of it

    2 - That he has more information than I do so I can't say he's wrong or right

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by Donder View Post
    Chris Davis says the record he's chasing is 61 home runs. Votto disagrees.

    "If Chris feels like 61 is the home run record, maybe hes just selfishly pegging that number as the home run record so if he passes it he can wear a crown or something like that, there would be a lot of money in that."

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chris-d...024447378.html

    Doesn't sound like Votto and Davis will be a sharing a Starbucks coffee anytime soon.
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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    1 - All of it

    2 - That he has more information than I do so I can't say he's wrong or right
    You have no opinion on whether more than .005% of mlb players are using PEDs and/or other banned substances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    You have no opinion on whether more than .005% of mlb players are using PEDs and/or other banned substances?
    I don't care to play the game without knowing all the facts, but please carry on.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Doesn't sound like Votto and Davis will be a sharing a Starbucks coffee anytime soon.
    "If he passes it he can wear a crown or something..." Votto is a poet.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I don't care to play the game without knowing all the facts, but please carry on.
    1. Why quote the stat then?
    2. If we expand what you said to all topics, no one would be allowed to post on any subject around here.

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    Re: Chris Davis

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Of course the question is, has Chris Davis seen a huge spike in skill, rather than production?

    As a 21-year-old in the minor leagues he hit 36 doubles and 35 home runs in just under 500 at bats. That kind of power is virtually unheard of.
    Is that really unheard of? Bruce and Dunn did the same thing at that age range in the minors and that is just 2 from the Reds.


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