Chris Davis

[dougdirt]

I thought they added HGH testing this year.

They have been testing for it in the minors since 2010, when Davis spent nearly a full season down there.

[dougdirt]

There was that Lance Armstrong guy who passed every doping test he ever took...

And there were people lined up around the World saying they had actual evidence he was doping, had seen him do it, written books on it.....

Huge difference between that and Chris Davis.

[westofyou]

Which proves that players' chemists >>>>>>> league chemists.

Yes that is proof, bravo!!


Or not

[Norm Chortleton]

Yes that is proof, bravo!!


Or not

You believe there are only 3.75 players on MLB active rosters who are using? OK.

[dougdirt]

When we've seen players of recent history break home run records or have huge spikes in production, the majority of the time we have later found out they were doing it with some help.

Is it fair to Chris Davis? No, but if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, people are going to assume it's a rat.

Of course the question is, has Chris Davis seen a huge spike in skill, rather than production?

As a 21-year-old in the minor leagues he hit 36 doubles and 35 home runs in just under 500 at bats. That kind of power is virtually unheard of. At 22-years-old he hit 21 doubles and 23 home runs in just under 300 at bats.

So, as a very young player he hit 57 doubles and 58 home runs in 792 at bats (along with 4 triples). So he was averaging an XBH at age 21 and 22 every 6.65 at bats.

Fastforward to his "prime" for power output and he is now averaging an XBH every 5.36 at bats.

That doesn't fit the "massive improvement out of nowhere" category for me.

[westofyou]

You believe there are only 3.75 players on MLB active rosters who are using? OK.

I don't believe anything because I don't have a full view of all the information.

I'm kinda funny that way.

[Norm Chortleton]

I don't believe anything because I don't have a full view of all the information.

I'm kinda funny that way.

1. What information do you need?
2. What is your opinion of the Selig stat you quoted?

[Donder]

Chris Davis says the record he's chasing is 61 home runs. Votto disagrees.

"If Chris feels like 61 is the home run record, maybe he’s just selfishly pegging that number as the home run record so if he passes it he can wear a crown or something like that, there would be a lot of money in that."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chris-d...024447378.html

[westofyou]

1. What information do you need?
2. What is your opinion of the Selig stat you quoted?

1 - All of it

2 - That he has more information than I do so I can't say he's wrong or right

[cumberlandreds]

Chris Davis says the record he's chasing is 61 home runs. Votto disagrees.

"If Chris feels like 61 is the home run record, maybe he’s just selfishly pegging that number as the home run record so if he passes it he can wear a crown or something like that, there would be a lot of money in that."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chris-d...024447378.html

Doesn't sound like Votto and Davis will be a sharing a Starbucks coffee anytime soon.

[Norm Chortleton]

1 - All of it

2 - That he has more information than I do so I can't say he's wrong or right

You have no opinion on whether more than .005% of mlb players are using PEDs and/or other banned substances?

[westofyou]

You have no opinion on whether more than .005% of mlb players are using PEDs and/or other banned substances?

I don't care to play the game without knowing all the facts, but please carry on.

[Superdude]

Doesn't sound like Votto and Davis will be a sharing a Starbucks coffee anytime soon.

"If he passes it he can wear a crown or something..." Votto is a poet.

[Norm Chortleton]

I don't care to play the game without knowing all the facts, but please carry on.

1. Why quote the stat then?
2. If we expand what you said to all topics, no one would be allowed to post on any subject around here.

[edabbs44]

Of course the question is, has Chris Davis seen a huge spike in skill, rather than production?

As a 21-year-old in the minor leagues he hit 36 doubles and 35 home runs in just under 500 at bats. That kind of power is virtually unheard of.

Is that really unheard of? Bruce and Dunn did the same thing at that age range in the minors and that is just 2 from the Reds.