remdog (07-14-2013)
Last 20 years, runs scored per game:
1992: 4.12
1993: 4.60
1995: 4.85
1996: 5.04
1997: 4.77
1998: 4.79
1999: 5.08
2000: 5.14
--all players not on a 40-man roster subject to testing--
2001: 4.78
2002: 4.62
2003: 4.73
2004: 4.81
--first testing implemented in spring training for all players, and subject to one random test a season--
2005: 4.59
--current punitive testing put into full force--
2006: 4.86
2007: 4.80
2008: 4.65
2009: 4.61
2010: 4.38
2011: 4.28
2012: 4.32
2013: 4.23
In the height of the PEDS era, the average RPG was 5.14. Since testing has been implemented at various stages, it has fluctuated and since gone down almost year after year once punitive measures were taken.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
If one really wants to separate means and point to a season of demarcation, the offensive environment has significantly decreased from 2010 going forward, a period where it's difficult to blame the downturn directly on testing.
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This isn't a court of law. It's not a newspaper or a television broadcast or any other means of mass communication. This is the equivalent of a bunch of friends sitting around talking about baseball. Whether on this board or with my friends around the lunch table, I sometimes talk about who might be using steroids or who I think is dogging it or who seems like a selfish player or any number of things (not all of them so negative -- but I doubt you would care to police my more positive conversations).
I guess I'm saying get over yourself. It's an internet message board. When someone on the board goes on 60 Minutes to accuse Chris Davis and Yadier Molina of using steroids, then you can climb on your soap box and act indignant.
Last edited by osuceltic; 07-02-2013 at 10:48 AM. Reason: typo
HeatherC1212 (07-02-2013),remdog (07-14-2013)
Davis is currently hitting a HR every 9.6 ABs. Over the past 40 years, there have only 15 other instances of players' HR:AB ratio being under 10:
Aaron, 1973
McGwire, 1995
McGwire, 1996
McGwire, 1997
McGwire, Sosa 1998
McGwire, Sosa 1999
Bonds, 2000
Bonds, Sosa 2001
Bonds, Thome 2002
Bonds, 2003
Bonds, 2004
Davis, 2013
Need I remind you that 13 of the 15 are known steroid users?
GullyFoyle (07-15-2013),remdog (07-14-2013)
Who is to say he won't up the pace to 8.5? Of course, no one knows what will happen in the future.
westofyou (07-02-2013)
You are wrong about this. RedsZone is a PUBLIC messaging board, and anyone can read what we post here. In fact, Google often indexes what we post. The same rules of libel and defamation apply here as in any other published medium.
Take a look at this case from 7 years ago: Jury awards $11.3 million over defamatory internet posts.Now this is not to say that anything in this thread either is or isn't libelous or defamatory. However, I wanted to make clear that this is materially different than a bunch of people shooting the breeze at a party.A Florida woman has been awarded $11.3 million in a defamation lawsuit against a Louisiana woman who posted messages on the Internet accusing her of being a "crook," a "con artist" and a "fraud." Legal analysts say the Sept. 19 award by a jury in Broward County, Fla. — first reported Friday by the Daily Business Review — represents the largest such judgment over postings on an Internet blog or message board
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