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    Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Maybe, maybe not. I think it's a little too soon to say for sure.

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...ent_that.html/

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Makes for an easy article right now.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Maybe more accurate to say "maybe without Cueto, Ludwick, Heisey, Marshall, Broxton and stretches without Phillips and Hanigan, the Reds are only a wild card team".

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    They sure haven't look good. Seems like every at bat is a titanic struggle with no gameplan.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    That article is slop. Before the road trip, the Reds were right there with the Cardinals and Pirates for the 3 best records in baseball, and that's despite all the injuries.

    Yes, June wasn't a good month and they've been playing poor lately, but they still have the 4th best record in the NL and are 4.5 games clear of the 2nd Wild Card.

    They're fine.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by swaisuc View Post
    Maybe more accurate to say "maybe without Cueto, Ludwick, Heisey, Marshall, Broxton and stretches without Phillips and Hanigan, the Reds are only a wild card team".
    Not so sure they will remain a wild card team much longer. They are falling quickly back to the pack behind them and those teams sure look a lot better than the Reds right now.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    The Reds haven't been good the last 2 weeks, that's true.

    But they are a better team than they've played recently.
    Recently, just about everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong.

    It was nice to see them recover from that 3 error inning in Texas and win though.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by Old NDN View Post
    Not so sure they will remain a wild card team much longer. They are falling quickly back to the pack behind them and those teams sure look a lot better than the Reds right now.
    If the Reds win 3 out of every 10 games the rest of the year, I agree they'll be in trouble.

    That isn't going to happen.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    They will be fine. Hal just needed a space to talk about the old days. You noticed how he morphed the article into talking baout playing against Dean Chance back in the 50's?
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Hal is a very nice man. There are lots of very nice people who do not do their job very well. HOF sportswriter putting out such drivel ought to be ashamed every time he does it. Apparently he likes it, because this is standard fare for him. Must be why I rarely read a sportswriter.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. I think it's a little too soon to say for sure.

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...ent_that.html/
    Somebody needs to tell Hal (and many fans) that having the 4th best record in the league (on pace for 91 wins) isn't something to be ashamed of. If you thought this was a 100 win team, the problem was your expectations.

    In the course of any season, there will be streaks of good and bad baseball. Neither will be indicative of your overall ability or performance.

    You'd think a vet like Hal would get that by now. Or, he does get is and just is doing the media thing in which the sky must always be falling.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Love the segue into Hals playing career... Way to go Hal... get in those last thirty words!! Mission accomplished, work completed.

    Now take a nap

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Basically the same could be said of the Cardinals right now.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    That article is slop. Before the road trip, the Reds were right there with the Cardinals and Pirates for the 3 best records in baseball, and that's despite all the injuries.

    Yes, June wasn't a good month and they've been playing poor lately, but they still have the 4th best record in the NL and are 4.5 games clear of the 2nd Wild Card.

    They're fine.
    How is the article slop? Aside from showing his obvious fandom and the inane reference to his own playing days, I'm not sure how the points he raised are in dispute.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio View Post
    How is the article slop? Aside from showing his obvious fandom and the inane reference to his own playing days, I'm not sure how the points he raised are in dispute.
    Because recent underperformances shouldn't become the identity of the team- the players and their overall body of work should be. The season record tells us that the Reds are a very good team.

    This is a reactionary article written in response to a couple of weeks of underperforming and finding ways to lose and is catered to ardent listeners of Lance McAllister's radio program who buy into the whole "no matter how good things are, they must be bad" mentality. It's a football mindset in a game that couldn't be further away from football.

    And, to echo other posters in this thread, the last third of the article where Hal talks about his high school playing career is silly nonsense.
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