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    Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Maybe, maybe not. I think it's a little too soon to say for sure.

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...ent_that.html/

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Makes for an easy article right now.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Maybe more accurate to say "maybe without Cueto, Ludwick, Heisey, Marshall, Broxton and stretches without Phillips and Hanigan, the Reds are only a wild card team".

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by swaisuc View Post
    Maybe more accurate to say "maybe without Cueto, Ludwick, Heisey, Marshall, Broxton and stretches without Phillips and Hanigan, the Reds are only a wild card team".
    Not so sure they will remain a wild card team much longer. They are falling quickly back to the pack behind them and those teams sure look a lot better than the Reds right now.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    The Reds haven't been good the last 2 weeks, that's true.

    But they are a better team than they've played recently.
    Recently, just about everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong.

    It was nice to see them recover from that 3 error inning in Texas and win though.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by Old NDN View Post
    Not so sure they will remain a wild card team much longer. They are falling quickly back to the pack behind them and those teams sure look a lot better than the Reds right now.
    If the Reds win 3 out of every 10 games the rest of the year, I agree they'll be in trouble.

    That isn't going to happen.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    They sure haven't look good. Seems like every at bat is a titanic struggle with no gameplan.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    That article is slop. Before the road trip, the Reds were right there with the Cardinals and Pirates for the 3 best records in baseball, and that's despite all the injuries.

    Yes, June wasn't a good month and they've been playing poor lately, but they still have the 4th best record in the NL and are 4.5 games clear of the 2nd Wild Card.

    They're fine.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    That article is slop. Before the road trip, the Reds were right there with the Cardinals and Pirates for the 3 best records in baseball, and that's despite all the injuries.

    Yes, June wasn't a good month and they've been playing poor lately, but they still have the 4th best record in the NL and are 4.5 games clear of the 2nd Wild Card.

    They're fine.
    How is the article slop? Aside from showing his obvious fandom and the inane reference to his own playing days, I'm not sure how the points he raised are in dispute.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio View Post
    How is the article slop? Aside from showing his obvious fandom and the inane reference to his own playing days, I'm not sure how the points he raised are in dispute.
    Because recent underperformances shouldn't become the identity of the team- the players and their overall body of work should be. The season record tells us that the Reds are a very good team.

    This is a reactionary article written in response to a couple of weeks of underperforming and finding ways to lose and is catered to ardent listeners of Lance McAllister's radio program who buy into the whole "no matter how good things are, they must be bad" mentality. It's a football mindset in a game that couldn't be further away from football.

    And, to echo other posters in this thread, the last third of the article where Hal talks about his high school playing career is silly nonsense.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by Plus Plus View Post
    Because recent underperformances shouldn't become the identity of the team- the players and their overall body of work should be. The season record tells us that the Reds are a very good team.

    This is a reactionary article written in response to a couple of weeks of underperforming and finding ways to lose and is catered to ardent listeners of Lance McAllister's radio program who buy into the whole "no matter how good things are, they must be bad" mentality. It's a football mindset in a game that couldn't be further away from football.

    And, to echo other posters in this thread, the last third of the article where Hal talks about his high school playing career is silly nonsense.
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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by Plus Plus View Post
    Because recent underperformances shouldn't become the identity of the team- the players and their overall body of work should be. The season record tells us that the Reds are a very good team.

    This is a reactionary article written in response to a couple of weeks of underperforming and finding ways to lose and is catered to ardent listeners of Lance McAllister's radio program who buy into the whole "no matter how good things are, they must be bad" mentality. It's a football mindset in a game that couldn't be further away from football.

    And, to echo other posters in this thread, the last third of the article where Hal talks about his high school playing career is silly nonsense.
    The season so far tells me that the Reds might not be a "very good team." What the season so far tells me is that the Reds could very well be about the 12th best team in the game and have been remarkably consistent at beating teams 13-30 and losing to teams 1-11. And we haven't just been losing to teams 1-11, we lose and that outcome never really feels in doubt.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by muethibp View Post
    What the season so far tells me is that the Reds could very well be about the 12th best team in the game
    But they're not.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by muethibp View Post
    The season so far tells me that the Reds might not be a "very good team." What the season so far tells me is that the Reds could very well be about the 12th best team in the game and have been remarkably consistent at beating teams 13-30 and losing to teams 1-11. And we haven't just been losing to teams 1-11, we lose and that outcome never really feels in doubt.
    But what gets lost in the shuffle of microscopic analysis of how the team looks or is playing lately is the fact that going 6-4 across every 10 game stretch- which is playing .500 and having one game that could go either way fall in your team's favor- means that your team will probably have one of the best if not the best record in baseball.

    Baseball is really, really hard. It's a game where the worse team wins often enough that small stretches don't give you any real information.

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    Re: Hal McCoy: "The Reds just aren't that good"

    Quote Originally Posted by Plus Plus View Post
    And, to echo other posters in this thread, the last third of the article where Hal talks about his high school playing career is silly nonsense.
    So you think it's a lie? I like Hal and I found the segue interesting. Some of you take these articles pretty seriously. It's just an article written by a frustrated Reds fan...sigh...like the rest of us aren't frustrated?

    I have always enjoyed his articles whether I agreed with them or not.

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