Edd Roush (07-02-2013)
I don't think it would take a Cingrani to get Aoki for a few months, more like a Sharky Rogers.
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
But I'd change it a bit: Sub Lutz and Ondrusek (or Arredondo) for Hoover and Corcino.
With Aoki in the fold for 2013 and 2014, we can forego Lutz and wait for Y-Rod, Winker and/or Ervin to takeover LF duties in 2015 or 2016. Ondrusek/Arredondo might be in Todd Coffey (another former Red/Brewer) territory, where a change of scenery could do them some good. No need to sell the bottom with Corcino - see if he can bounce back, he's already starting to a bit.
Here's his contract status according to BR:
2012 30 Milwaukee Brewers $1,000,000 contracts
2013 31 Milwaukee Brewers $1,250,000
2014 32 Milwaukee Brewers *$1,500,000 $1.5M Team Option, $250k Buyout
Earliest Arb Eligible: 2015, Earliest Free Agent: 2018
With the current CBA does the team option hold if a player is traded? If so, 1.5 million for next year sounds like a deal.
Choo in center, Aoki in right and Yao Ming in left. Reds solve thousands of years of regional distrust in one outfield.'
And Cingrani for Aoki would be a horrible deal for this franchise. Cingrani is needed in the Reds rotation from 2014-2019.
The Brewers are about to be lapped by the Marlins and are now in the mix for #1 overall draft pick. Amazing how fast they've fallen with the trades and loss of several key FAs and some poor development.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Here is the main group of Trade bait, that might interest other teams and that I think the Reds could afford to deal, to add help in the pen and the OF (obviously you would pick one or more of these guys depending on the deal):
Soto, H-Rod, Lutz, Hoover, Corcino, Partch, Robinson and, if they need to in order to get a bigger name, Travieso. The Reds can't really subtract any of the main guys in the line-up, pen or rotation (that includes all 6 guys including Cingrani) and improve enough for it to be worth it. They need to add to what they've got.
Other minor leaguers would be available depending on the return. Guys I'd be most reluctant to deal would be Stephenson, Hamilton, Y-Rod, Winker and the new draftees would of course be excluded.
Last edited by mth123; 07-02-2013 at 04:04 AM.
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Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
I think Aoki's being overvalued quite a bit here. While he's useful to the Reds due to Ludwick being hurt, at the end of the day he's a guy who can only play a corner OF spot and has zero power, bit a bit of OB skill. I know he's cheap, but he's a spare part on a good team. What would we pay if Ludwick wasn't hurt?