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    Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Nice move by the Celtics. I mean Stevens doesn't have a lot of experience coaching top NBA talent but fortunately the Celtics don't have much of that left.

    http://www.butlersports.com/sports/m...20130703gp8h85

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Need to trade Rondo.
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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    So what college job will Stevens take in 2 or 3 years?

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Interesting.
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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Great coach, I wish him the best
    I was in the ORG once, best 6 months of my life.

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Need to trade Rondo.
    Trade a Kentucky guy?
    I was in the ORG once, best 6 months of my life.

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    Nice move by the Celtics. I mean Stevens doesn't have a lot of experience coaching top NBA talent but fortunately the Celtics don't have much of that left.

    http://www.butlersports.com/sports/m...20130703gp8h85
    It a completely off the radar hire, but hard to see a downside for either side. If Stevens fails, he'll go back to a college job of his choosing, if he succeeds, he's a great hire.

    I've seen a lot of the "College Coaches never work in the Pros" but that seems to suffer from both a small sample of college coaches and ignoring the fact that most coaches fail in the NBA.
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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Red View Post
    So what college job will Stevens take in 2 or 3 years?
    It's a safe bet that if and when Stevens decides to return to the College game, he'll have his pick of any open -- and some non-vacated -- HC job. Even if the Celtics gig doesn't work out, It seems foolish for anyone to believe that Stevens is committing career suicide.
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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    You beat me to it, HR.
    "I have just been more than a little suspect of all the trades since the Willy (Scott Williamson) cash grab. That one left such a bad taste in my mouth that even a 1985 Dom Pérignon couldn't cleanse it." -- Creek14

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    Trade a Kentucky guy?
    To completely get rid of all the talent.

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    It's a safe bet that if and when Stevens decides to return to the College game, he'll have his pick of any open -- and some non-vacated -- HC job. Even if the Celtics gig doesn't work out, It seems foolish for anyone to believe that Stevens is committing career suicide.
    If Rick Pitino retires by that time, I'd say Stevens is the safest choice. Another possibility could include Kentucky if Calipari ever leaves (retirement or NBA). I thought Indiana was a likely landing spot, especially if IU fans would have ever gotten impatient with Crean, but that ship has likely sailed.

    If anything, this enhances his resume. I don't see him being a successful NBA coach, but if/when he does return to the college game, he has the NBA experience and connections to sell to recruits.
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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    IMO, one thing that we have to keep in mind is that most, if not all, of the high-profile college coaches that have failed in the NBA were system coaches that relied on superior athletes to operate their system in college -- Pitino and (using an NFL example) Spurrier come to mind.

    By contrast, Stevens managed to reach the NC game two years in a row with players recruited to play in the Horizon League. The fact that one of his players went on to become a Lottery Pick doesn't change that. That's what gives Stevens a fighting chance, IMO. If he can accomplish what he accomplished with said "talent", imagine what he can do with some of the best athletes in the World.

    To that end, Ainge's job as GM will mostly make-or-break Stevens from the standpoint of success/winning percentage. The problem now is that the Celtics are kind of in no-man's land, just as the 76ers were until they wisely decided to blow it up on draft day. They are not yet Bobcats/Magic bad. In other words, a high Lottery pick may not be in their future just yet. Given that, IMO, should Stevens "fail" as Celtics coach, I believe it will be largely the result of factors that he has virtually no control over, but that is the risk you take as a coach when you jump to the NBA.

    All of that said, Stevens will be under contract for six years. I'm willing to bet that Stevens lasts longer in Boston than Doc Rivers lasts in LA dealing with Donald Sterling.
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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Need to trade Rondo.
    This article agrees with you.

    I do, as well.

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...re-rebuilding/
    "I have just been more than a little suspect of all the trades since the Willy (Scott Williamson) cash grab. That one left such a bad taste in my mouth that even a 1985 Dom Pérignon couldn't cleanse it." -- Creek14

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Sucks for Butler. He could've been a legend there. He kind of already is, but he could've really cemented it.

    With that said, if he is willing to be patient, he could have a lot of success. Stevens is not a traditional NBA coach. He's more of the Frank Vogel variety. He relies heavily on stats and matchups and applies it in a way that most NBA coaches do not. That gives him a better chance to succeed. He does need talent though and he ain't going to have much of that next season. If Boston is patient, he'll be a great hire for them.

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    Re: Brad Stevens to the Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    If Boston is patient, he'll be a great hire for them.
    That's what I thought too, assuming he has what it takes. This kind of hire is something a team can afford to do when it's rebuilding anyway. Stevens can learn the league without the win-now pressure, and if it all works out, he'll be ready to win big by the time the talent is.

    And if it doesn't work, well, like the other posts said, no real harm done. Boston isn't going to win anything for awhile no matter who's coaching, and Stevens can always go back to the college ranks.
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