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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    Because the Mariners are an absolutely pathetic team, the Reds caught their 3-5 starters, and have looked like hot garbage against Aaron Harang and Joe Saunders, the best tandem 2007 has to offer.

    The Reds need to send Cozart to the minor leagues so he can get his head straight. The guy right now is humiliating himself against major league pitching, and he is hurting the offense of a contending team. It's not good for him or for the club to have him going out there and hitting second every night. It's not ideal, but some combination of Izturis, Hannahan, and Jason Donald ought to be able to man the pump for two weeks.
    Cozart is a deficient hitter. But, again, look at the full team. It is not one guy.

    It is not the batting order.

    Just look at the stats. Most of the guys in this lineup aren't hitting.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Pizza for all

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    At least there will be pizza
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    Because the Mariners are an absolutely pathetic team, the Reds caught their 3-5 starters, and have looked like hot garbage against Aaron Harang and Joe Saunders, the best tandem 2007 has to offer.

    The Reds need to send Cozart to the minor leagues so he can get his head straight. The guy right now is humiliating himself against major league pitching, and he is hurting the offense of a contending team. It's not good for him or for the club to have him going out there and hitting second every night. It's not ideal, but some combination of Izturis, Hannahan, and Jason Donald ought to be able to man the pump for two weeks.
    Izturis? Seriously? Better hitter than Cozart?

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

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    Pizza for all
    You buying? Thanks! I'll PM you my address
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Fix the bench and the Cozart problem is fixed. Izturis and Hanahan need to be dumped. Walt's got some work to do and Dusty needs to butt out of the discussion.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Quote Originally Posted by BluegrassRedleg View Post
    He has left us hanging out to dry three years in a row. Why is there reason to believe he will make a move this year with what is reportedly a much worse buyer's market?

    I appreciate what the guy has done to transform this organization and build around starting pitching, but we've had constant lineup issues the entire time he's been here that never seem to be resolved.
    Walt was on the game when Bailey pitched the no hitter.

    they asked about getting help. he talked about pitching. Great. Pitching is great. Always need it. Until all you do is start losing games 3-2, 4-3, 3-1.

    Does he not see they need a RH bat off the bench at worst? They are so worried about defense that someone like Soto would not get a chance here.

    They would need an extra roster spot to have a pure PH who can really only play 1B ....to help them against situations like this.

    Like a Roger Freed circa 1977 or Kosco 1973.

    They are just waiting for a miracle in Ludwick coming back healthy and hitting again. When does the light go on for the FO that what they have is not enough to help you?

    Like Tom Servo said though...all it seems to matter is getting to the playoffs. How they are going to score runs seems not to be an issue as long as they get there.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

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    Sure. I'll just pay with this credit card I have sitting around here....it's under the name Joseph Francis Saunders.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Izturis? Seriously? Better hitter than Cozart?
    Cozart is the only viable everyday option at SS in the upper levels of the organization. The Reds have a huge amount invested in him because if he fails, they have to go get a high-priced free agent or play an Izturis type. I'm saying send Cozart down, let him get his crap together in a no-pressure scenario, and then bring him back up. Take the temporary hit with the Three Stooges at SS for a couple of weeks. This club needs Zack Cozart to hit and he doesn't look like coming out of this slump in the majors.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Fix the bench and the Cozart problem is fixed. Izturis and Hanahan need to be dumped. Walt's got some work to do and Dusty needs to butt out of the discussion.
    Why dump Hannahan? Look at his career numbers, he's more useful than his line this year shows as he is gotten very sporadic playing time.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    (sigh) Quickly two out.

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    I'm going to reiterate my position on Zach Cozart.

    While it might be easy to scapegoat him, he is what he is, and that's a shortstop that will give you league average production (for his position) and top notch defense. He should never be slotted between the two best on base guys. It's lunacy. And THAT is the problem.

    As much as I like Walt, he's been prone to sleeping on this team's greater issue, bench depth. They have nothing.

    The fact that we're whining about the shortstop is evidence of that.
    "We know we're better than this, but we can't prove it." - Tony Gwynn

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Reds outscored them 16-11 so it's good, right?

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    They just have no clue at the plate whatsoever. Seven pitches.

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    Re: 7/7/2013 Reds v. Mariners

    Pathetic series.


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