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Thread: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    I think Dusty is trying to get Cozart to join this list (he only has one more BB this year than GDP):
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    Rk 	Player 	        PA 	        GDP 	BB 	From 	To 	        Pos
    1 	Ivan Rodriguez 	10133 	331 	503 	1991 	2010 	*2/D34
    2 	Ernie Lombardi 	6349 	261 	430 	1931 	1947 	*2
    3 	Manny Sanguille	5380 	144 	223 	1967 	1980 	*2/9D37
    4 	A.J. Pierzynski 	5207 	155 	207 	1998 	2010 	*2/D
    5 	Bengie Molina 	5159 	173 	208 	1998 	2010 	*2/D
    6 	Ken Reitz 	        5079 	157 	184 	1972 	1982 	*5/64
    7 	Sandy Alomar 	4865 	132 	212 	1988 	2007 	*2/D3
    8 	Danny Cater 	4785 	160 	254 	1964 	1975 	*375/9D48
    9 	Deivi Cruz 	        4375 	117 	132 	1997 	2005 	*6/45D3
    10 	Jerry Adair 	4315 	149 	208 	1958 	1970 	*46/53
    11 	Damaso Garcia 	4124 	82 	130 	1978 	1989 	*4/6D53
    12 	Doug Flynn 	4085 	95 	151 	1975 	1985 	*46/5
    13 	Gary Disarcina 	4032 	105 	154 	1989 	2000 	*6/45
    14 	Hal Lanier 	        3940 	135 	136 	1964 	1973 	*645/3
    15 	Robinson Cano 	3732 	113 	186 	2005 	2010 	*4/D
    16 	Jose Lopez 	3599 	98 	134 	2004 	2010 	*45/63D
    17 	John Bateman 	3585 	123 	172 	1963 	1972 	*2
    18 	Pat Meares 	3560 	94 	150 	1993 	2001 	*6/489
    19 	Pat Borders 	3499 	94 	155 	1988 	2005 	*2/D543
    20 	Brian Harper 	3386 	107 	133 	1979 	1995 	*2/7D953
    Last edited by UCBrownsfan; 07-10-2013 at 09:34 PM.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    I wish Dusty would do this just so we could stop having this discussion.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that Cozart's hitting stats makes him a subpar choice for hitting 2nd in front of Votto?

    This might sound a little "out there", but it might be time to move him down in the order and try to find a batter with higher OBP to hit in front of Votto and the boys.
    You are out of your mind. Dusty has been a manager for years and he knows what he's doing. What could a bunch of nerds wearing pocket protectors who stopped playing the game after tee ball know about lineups? Leave the strategy to the ones who are paid to do it. I'd rather just enjoy the game and throw out some opinions now and then.
    Last edited by RedEye; 07-10-2013 at 10:31 PM.
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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Not that we need another thread about the lineup, but the time was early April.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I still don't understand the rationale behind Phillips splitting Bruce and Votto. Phillips is a low OBP hitter without true home run pop.
    Awesome like Cozy splitting the huge OB% guys

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by UCBrownsfan View Post
    I think Dusty is trying to get Cozart to join this list (he only has one more BB this year than GDP):
    Code:
    Rk 	Player 	        PA 	GiDP 	BB 	From 	To 	 Pos
    1 	Ivan Rodriguez 	10133 	331 	503 	1991 	2010 	*2/D34
    2 	Ernie Lombardi 	6349 	261 	430 	1931 	1947 	*2
    3 	Manny Sanguille	5380 	144 	223 	1967 	1980 	*2/9D37
    4 	AJ Pierzynski 	5207 	155 	207 	1998 	2010 	*2/D
    5 	Bengie Molina 	5159 	173 	208 	1998 	2010 	*2/D
    6 	Ken Reitz 	5079 	157 	184 	1972 	1982 	*5/64
    7 	Sandy Alomar 	4865 	132 	212 	1988 	2007 	*2/D3
    8 	Danny Cater 	4785 	160 	254 	1964 	1975 	*375/9D48
    9 	Deivi Cruz 	4375 	117 	132 	1997 	2005 	*6/45D3
    10 	Jerry Adair 	4315 	149 	208 	1958 	1970 	*46/53
    11 	Damaso Garcia 	4124 	82 	130 	1978 	1989 	*4/6D53
    12 	Doug Flynn 	4085 	95 	151 	1975 	1985 	*46/5
    13 	Gary Disarcina 	4032 	105 	154 	1989 	2000 	*6/45
    14 	Hal Lanier 	3940 	135 	136 	1964 	1973 	*645/3
    15 	Robinson Cano 	3732 	113 	186 	2005 	2010 	*4/D
    16 	Jose Lopez 	3599 	98 	134 	2004 	2010 	*45/63D
    17 	John Bateman 	3585 	123 	172 	1963 	1972 	*2
    18 	Pat Meares 	3560 	94 	150 	1993 	2001 	*6/489
    19 	Pat Borders 	3499 	94 	155 	1988 	2005 	*2/D543
    20 	Brian Harper 	3386 	107 	133 	1979 	1995 	*2/7D953
    I fixed the spacing to make this more readable and to make clear that we are not discussing gross domestic product..

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    It's been a few hours, is the time still NOW????

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    It's not an attempt to start a discussion guys. It's my attempt at subliminal messages and mind control.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    It's been a few hours, is the time still NOW????
    For a move like this the time is always now my uninitiated young friend.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    It's not completely unlike Dusty's lineup when Robinson leads off;

    Robinson
    Choo
    Votto
    Phillips
    Bruce
    ...
    Last edited by Far East; 07-10-2013 at 11:59 PM.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by smixsell View Post
    It's not an attempt to start a discussion guys. It's my attempt at subliminal messages and mind control.
    Ah ha! I knew Dusty must "read" our discussions somehow...

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Far East View Post
    It's not completely unlikely Dusty's lineup when Robinson leads off;

    Robinson
    Choo
    Votto
    Phillips
    Bruce
    ...
    Except for that whole "Robinson leads off" detail.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Except for that whole "Robinson leads off" detail.
    Agreed. I guess that my point was that Dusty has already used those four from the thread title in that order -- and just needs to erase "Robinson."

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Far East View Post
    Agreed. I guess that my point was that Dusty has already used those four from the thread title in that order -- and just needs to erase "Robinson."
    I know, I know. Just expressing frustration at his utter inability to consider doing that. Instead, we need to have a "speedy" out machine with the most PA's for the game.

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    Re: 1. Choo 2. Votto 3. Phillips 4. Bruce ....... the time is NOW!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    If Dusty makes a bold move that is not common in the baseball world and someone like Votto goes into a slump and the move doesn't work, he probably loses his job.

    So I ask you this, why would he make such a high risk/low reward maneuver in terms of his coaching career?

    If he stays with the status quo and other guys not named these 4 don't perform he can fall back on the play of his players.
    Votto has been in a rbi slump all year long! He's hitting less than .130 with 2 outs and RISP.
    Maybe he secretly wants to be a leadoff hitter, if he only had some speed and could figure out how to slde. (he still has not figured that out just yet).

    Oh yea, I'm all in for this LOGICAL batting order!
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