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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    He's been a great guy to have and his games started, innings and wins are impressive. I'm glad we have him.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Quote Originally Posted by jhiller21 View Post
    Arroyo has quietly been one of the most durable, efficient pitchers for the Reds since we got him in 2005.

    Hasn't ever missed a start, and 200+ IP every year with the exception of 2011. Very underrated starter. Someone is going to pay him 8 million next year, and he probably deserves it.
    And the one year he fell short of 200 IP, he finished with 199.
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    If you had told Reds fans Arroyo would win 100 games for the Reds when he first came to Cincinnati, few would have believed it. The consensus was that he never wanted to come to Cincinnati and would resign with the Red Sox at the first opportunity. He has since pitched more seasons for the Reds than the Red Sox and Pirates combined, become a model of consistency, and I'd say is now a fan favorite. Well done, Mr. Arroyo. When you are gone, you will be missed.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    I have a great appreciation for what Bronson has done as a Red over the last several seasons, including this year.

    And while I still firmly believe the Reds can and will compete for a Pennant this year, IF (and only if) they were to fall out of contention over the next 3 weeks (more than 3 games back of the WC, which seems highly unlikely at this point), Arroyo would be the perfect trade candidate at the deadline.

    There are only 2-3 decent pitchers available on the trade market between Garza, Gallardo, and Norris. Arguably one could include Hughes in this bunch, but Arroyo has clearly been significantly more reliable than the Yankees righthander. In fact, Arroyo has been more reliable than any of these arms, and while he doesn't have the youth or potential TOR stuff of these guys, he has phenomenal postseason experience and could re-sign for a 2 or 3 year deal. While there has been debate over whether the Reds should extend Arroyo (I believe they shouldn't) or even make a qualifying offer (I believe they should), it would be interesting to see what he could fetch on the trade market if it becomes clear the 2013 Reds don't have a clear shot at a title.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    it would be interesting to see what he could fetch on the trade market if it becomes clear the 2013 Reds don't have a clear shot at a title.
    I believe all of his deferred salary becomes due if he is traded. In which case, he won't be going anywhere.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    I believe all of his deferred salary becomes due if he is traded. In which case, he won't be going anywhere.
    Fair point (if true)
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Absolutely true.


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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    If the rotation stays the same, his next start should be July 21st (Sunday) after the AS break @ GABP.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    I also like his interviews. Smart guy, no BS.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Remember talking to a Red Sox fan at the time of this trade he thought they had gotten the steal of the century.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Quote Originally Posted by cinredsfan2000 View Post
    Remember talking to a Red Sox fan at the time of this trade he thought they had gotten the steal of the century.
    The Reds got the steal or the Sox?
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/braves-...6911--mlb.html

    I guess he was traded in the middle of the game to the Braves, who managed to lose the game.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    The Reds got the steal or the Sox?
    Red sox fan thought that the sox had gotten the steal of the century.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    I believe all of his deferred salary becomes due if he is traded. In which case, he won't be going anywhere.
    The one team that the deferred money penalty wouldn't be an issue for could be an interesting destination:

    If (and only if) the Reds are 2-3 GB of the WC at the end of the month, (which again seems highly unlikely at this point), would you trade Arroyo to the Dodgers for Joc Pederson? I would.

    In fact, if Leake continues to pitch well after the break and the Reds get visibility that Johnny Cueto can come back and pitch beginning in August, I might consider this trade even if the Reds are still firmly in Wild Card contention, given that Arroyo would likely not be a playoff starter.

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    Joc Pederson, OF | Los Angeles Dodgers
    Stats: .299/.388/.522, 14 HRs, 25 SB (Double-A Chattanooga)

    The Dodgers' outfield at the major league level is overcrowded with Carl Crawford, Matt Kemp, Yasiel Puig and Andre Ethier. Even if the Dodgers end up dealing one of the four, their outfield is still set for years to come.

    Pederson is at Double-A Chattanooga of the Southern League, and scouts are drooling over his hit tool, power and the fact he can play all three outfield positions. With his path to the majors blocked in L.A., he’s the most likely top prospect it will move if it can acquire a difference-maker.

    To deal Pederson, the Dodgers would have to get back a top-of-the-rotation starter, a back-end impact closer or a top pitching prospect. Teams that would match up in this type of deal include the Seattle Mariners, Chicago White Sox, Minnesota Twins and Milwaukee Brewers.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo - one win from 100

    Arroyo has 10 and 5 rights. Not only will you need to pay him per his contract, but you may need to give him some more to get him to agree to a deal.

    He's not going anywhere unless the Reds are hopelessly buried and he'd get a chance at the post-season with another team. That's not going to happen by the deadline.
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