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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Why does it seem like every college thread comes back on Auburn cheating? I think that horse was beaten a LONG time ago.
    Because Auburn never cheats. Past history has proven that..........well
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Getting back on some what the topic.

    As an older guy, it simply amazes me as to what the "glory" program coaches get away with to a degree. Can someone find me a mold of Adolph Rupp or Bobby Knight? The sport needs some no non-sense guys. They weren't perfect, but they didn't cheat either.......well at least they haven't got caught yet!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Things getting a bit more interesting at UNC***.


    Anyone following?
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    It brings up some interesting things.

    1) Every time a scandal starts like this, the first thing the university and its fans do is trash the guy starting it. Discredit the voice and change the public's focus.

    2) This is one of those scandals which most people believes happens everywhere. I remember when a transcript of Andy Katzenmoyer's schedule was made public and he was made fun of. Most fans tend to accept that a fairly large amount of high level college athletes aren't getting a high level education.
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    If you're interested in this story - and looking at both sides of it - take a look at the blog of Bradley Bethel, a learning specialist at the University of North Carolina. Bethel pokes all sorts of holes in the media's sensationalizing of the UNC story and the motives of the so-called "whistle blower". He writes in a very academic tone so some of it is a little more challenging to follow.

    http://coachingthemind.blogspot.com/
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    At least 18 years, I'm guessing longer in some format.

    It's stunning how brazen unc was in their cheating.

    Strict Liability.

    That's really all that needs to be said.

    Sorry, UNC.

    18 years of records and awards wiped clean.

    Anything else would open the ncaa to a huge lawsuit from the UCONNs and Memphis States of the world. (Would never happen, I'm afraid, but still, for argument's sake.)

    NCAA set the precedent, now follow it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    At least 18 years, I'm guessing longer in some format.

    It's stunning how brazen unc was in their cheating.

    Strict Liability.

    That's really all that needs to be said.

    Sorry, UNC.

    18 years of records and awards wiped clean.

    Anything else would open the ncaa to a huge lawsuit from the UCONNs and Memphis States of the world. (Would never happen, I'm afraid, but still, for argument's sake.)

    NCAA set the precedent, now follow it.
    And people wonder why I want nothing to do with the ACC as a Mountaineer fan. Damn bunch of hypocrites.
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    At least 18 years, I'm guessing longer in some format.

    It's stunning how brazen unc was in their cheating.

    Strict Liability.

    That's really all that needs to be said.

    Sorry, UNC.

    18 years of records and awards wiped clean.

    Anything else would open the ncaa to a huge lawsuit from the UCONNs and Memphis States of the world. (Would never happen, I'm afraid, but still, for argument's sake.)

    NCAA set the precedent, now follow it.
    I am right there with ya man.
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    They should get the death penalty for that, but they won't.

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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyder View Post
    And people wonder why I want nothing to do with the ACC as a Mountaineer fan. Damn bunch of hypocrites.
    Throw in Free Shoes University and the problems with Famous Jameis and the ACC is a joke. At least the SEC school in question suspended their top player indefinitely (Gurley).

    And the NCAA waived Penn St's sanctions if that says anything at all.
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    If the NCAA goes with strict liability it won't matter if Roy or anyone else in the athletic department knew about this. (BTW, I have acres of swamp land if you believe Ole Roy didn't know what was going on.)
    This is getting a lot of national publicity. I think the NCAA is going to have a hard time ignoring this one. Also I believe the academic people at UNC have to be more than ticked at this. It makes the entire University look awful. I think in the end there will be some major penalties hand out. But then again the NCAA has made a living at sweeping things under the rug for certain institutions.
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Getting back on some what the topic.

    As an older guy, it simply amazes me as to what the "glory" program coaches get away with to a degree. Can someone find me a mold of Adolph Rupp or Bobby Knight? The sport needs some no non-sense guys. They weren't perfect, but they didn't cheat either.......well at least they haven't got caught yet!!!!!!!!!
    I recall old Adolph did the opposite of cheating- his players shaved points.

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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    I recall old Adolph did the opposite of cheating- his players shaved points.

    "Adolph Rupp wouldn't give you a straw hat in a blizzard"

    Al McGuire

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    Look up what Digger Phelps has said about Al McGuire.
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    Re: Anyone following all the cheating at North Carolina?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Throw in Free Shoes University and the problems with Famous Jameis and the ACC is a joke. At least the SEC school in question suspended their top player indefinitely (Gurley).

    And the NCAA waived Penn St's sanctions if that says anything at all.
    WV, I was taken back by what happened at Penn St. But I think the NCAA over stepped their bounds on that one. It was sexual misconduct by a coach and the ensuing cover-up. It had nothing to do with the players whatsoever........but who knows?
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