OneManBand (07-19-2013)
What's your point exactly? Did you know for a fact that Corcino was going to struggle this year? It could have just as easily been Cingrani. Did you know Hanigan would be injured and struggling at the plate?
Hindsight is 20-20. No GM or front office is capable of peering into the future and determining exactly when a guy will get injured or his numbers are going to fall off a cliff.
I agree in principle that one tool guys (Hamilton) and relievers (Chapman) should be traded when their value is sky high, but it's hard to know where that peak is.
Last edited by Alpha Zero; 07-19-2013 at 11:32 AM.
he is at least 1 if not 2 years from being ML ready...
None of those players have an elite tool though. A player who just set the professional record for steals in a season is not going to be given up on because of a bad half of a season at AAA. If Drew Stubbs and Homer Bailey can get as many chances as they got, then I think Billy gets at least a couple years in AAA to learn how to get on base.
dwyerbrg (07-19-2013)
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
Billy Hamilton=Herb Washington
When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.
Yes there is hope. Right now, his swings are a mess and he needs plenty of work with the bat.
I take it neither of you have seen him play.
Billy Hamilton has solid baseball skills and talents, that go behind his speed. He's a very smart baseball player who provides above average defense, and has good baseball instincts. Right now, he could be a very effective 5th outfielder on any MLB team at the very least.
His only major issue is his swing, especially from the left side. But even there, he's hit well above average at every level until he made it to AAA. He may never be a productive MLB starter, but he's much, much more than just a track star in a baseball uniform. He already is a true baseball player.
Hoping to change my username to 75769023
I still have very high hopes for Billy but the worst thing the Reds can do is rush this kid. He should get another full year in AAA if he needs it. Sometimes you have to ignore the big club's need and be patient. Unless you want to trade in his potential for help now but that would be pretty poor GMing in Billy's case since you almost certainly would be selling low. I'm willing to wait it out.
Why does everyone around just assume choo will be gone next season.
I see no point in letting him go if unless walt makes some serious WIN NOW moves before the deadline. If he just sits on his hands. Than why did we get choo for one year in the first place
They got Choo for one year thinking BH would be ready in 2014. It was a good move then and remains a good move.
I'm just curious. Why Hasn't Billy Hamilton been brought up this year? Is his nickname "Sliding Billy" by any chance? There was a "Sliding Billy" Hamilton that played in the 19th Century. His career actually lasted from 1888 to 1901. He stole 914 lifetime bases, including 100 or more FOUR TIMES. 111 in 1888 for the Kansas City Cowboys of the American Association. 102 for the Philadelphia Phillies of the National League in 1889. 111 for the Phillies in 1890. 128 for the Phillies in 1894.
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