Go ahead and throw in shared titles: the picture isn't any rosier. And just for the record, I can't stand UL. But for Ohio State fans to rank their program amongst the first tier programs when Big Ten national championships are less frequent than cicada invasions is pure comedy gold. Of course, its indicative of the arrogance some (but certainly not most) Ohio State fans lovingly embrace. Don't worry though, this alarming trend of conference mediocrity will end soon: Rutgers and Maryland will soon be here to save the day. Look out SEC!
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Is it really controversial to say Ohio State is a first tier program? I wouldn't have thought so.
I think you have to care way too much about conference affiliations to say something like that.
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*BaseClogger* (11-25-2013),RedFanAlways1966 (11-24-2013),Revering4Blue (11-24-2013),RiverRat13 (11-24-2013),traderumor (11-24-2013)
You beg the question regarding counting NC's for a "first-tier" program designation. It looks like you might think that the SEC represents "first-tier" and everyone else is at another level.
It would also seem to me that there is a distinct difference in the football history at OSU vs. Louisville that warrants the original poster's point. They really are two different levels of programs. You may find that distasteful, and I'll give you that its more balanced than it used to be, but Louisville would not be a marquee match up. It just isn't.
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Revering4Blue (11-24-2013)
Historical Top Tier Programs in no order
Ohio State
Michigan
Nebraska
Penn State
Tennessee
Florida
Alabama
LSU
Florida State
Miami
Texas
Oklahoma
USC
Notre Dame
The Pac 10 typically has a strong 2nd team that includes the Oregons, UCLAs, Stanfords etc. But they rise and fall more often.
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wolfboy (11-25-2013)
JMO, but I wouldn't put Louisville in the top tier of Div 1 college *programs*. Just like I wouldn't put UC or Rutgers in it either. Any team out of the Big East just doesn't have the cachet yet.
Louisville is on their way, but they need to get in the ACC and kick some butt there for a while. They need a tradition of football and they just haven't had a top 20 team for that long.
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Revering4Blue (11-24-2013)
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
I didn't really mean to omit Auburn, it was more of a if I put Auburn there do I have to put Georgia, and if I have to put Georgia that means, I have to include Texas A&M. Those three schools easily make the end of that list. Wisconsin is probably behind that. But I think there is a substantial break between those three SEC schools and Wisconsin.
No slight intended.
I think it is pretty clear that the list of big boy, top tier, programs ends right there.
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*BaseClogger* (11-25-2013),Revering4Blue (11-24-2013),traderumor (11-25-2013)
I haven't read back the last couple of pages, but is there really an argument if OSU is a first tier college football program? Really? No matter how you slice it, OSU is one of the strongest programs in the country, historically, post 1950s, post turn of the century, etc... To argue otherwise is just silly.
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