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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    A 1 loss OSU team will not leap frog an undefeated team from the Big 5.
    That assumes there will be an undefeated team. As you said earlier, it wouldn't surprise me if there isn't one. Will all the championship games nowdays, it's tough

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    Of course and they all do it. Some like to disguise it by saying, "BS. We are playing a PAC-10 team." Sure, like Washington State (3-9 record in 2012) who may give Buffalo a good game lol. I am sure that Alabama is concerned about that game with Georgia State.

    Superior Ego Complex will not admit it. But consider the mentality of folks who think poisoning trees shows true love and passion.
    The SEC is playing teams such as Clemson, Va Tech, TCU, Ok State and North Carolina. The best the Big Ten can come up with is Syracuse, Cal and UC Bearcats. And its big gun, OSU is playing Buffalo. Why Buffalo and not UC?

    As a fan of football, do you want to watch Big Ten play MAC teams or would you rather watch:

    AL-Va Tech
    Ga-Clemson
    MSU-Ok St
    SC-NC
    Ole Miss-Vandy
    LSU-TCU

    It hurts the conference as a whole. The country's not watching these Big Ten-MAC matchups. We don't care and that hurts the Big Ten in terms of rankings and perception later.

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    SEC Week 2. Take out a conference game and the Florida/Miami rivalary game and you have the same thing the Big 10 does in Week 1. I wish college football scheduling didn't work like this and it seems like with the playoff coming that more teams are adding higher quality opponents, but it always seems like there are a few marquee out of conference games and a bunch of crap in every league.

    Miami (OH) @ Kentucky
    #10 Florida @ Miami (FL)
    12:21 PM Western Kentucky @ Tennessee
    3:30 PM Toledo @ Missouri
    3:30 PM Alcorn State @ Mississippi State
    4:30 PM #6 South Carolina @ #5 Georgi
    7:00 PM Samford @ Arkansas
    7:00 PM Southeast Missouri State @ Ole Miss
    7:00 PM UAB @ #12 LSU
    7:00 PM Sam Houston State @ #7 Texas A&M
    7:30 PM Arkansas State @ Auburn
    7:30 PM Austin Peay @ Vanderbilt

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    SEC Week 2. Take out a conference game and the Florida/Miami rivalary game and you have the same thing the Big 10 does in Week 1. I wish college football scheduling didn't work like this and it seems like with the playoff coming that more teams are adding higher quality opponents, but it always seems like there are a few marquee out of conference games and a bunch of crap in every league.

    Miami (OH) @ Kentucky
    #10 Florida @ Miami (FL)
    12:21 PM Western Kentucky @ Tennessee
    3:30 PM Toledo @ Missouri
    3:30 PM Alcorn State @ Mississippi State
    4:30 PM #6 South Carolina @ #5 Georgi
    7:00 PM Samford @ Arkansas
    7:00 PM Southeast Missouri State @ Ole Miss
    7:00 PM UAB @ #12 LSU
    7:00 PM Sam Houston State @ #7 Texas A&M
    7:30 PM Arkansas State @ Auburn
    7:30 PM Austin Peay @ Vanderbilt
    The Big 5 are going to realign the landscape of college football over the next coming months. I hope that scheduling is going to tighten. There is nothing more boring than watching an uncompetitive college football game that means little in the grande scheme of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    The SEC is playing teams such as Clemson, Va Tech, TCU, Ok State and North Carolina. The best the Big Ten can come up with is Syracuse, Cal and UC Bearcats. And its big gun, OSU is playing Buffalo. Why Buffalo and not UC?

    As a fan of football, do you want to watch Big Ten play MAC teams or would you rather watch:

    AL-Va Tech
    Ga-Clemson
    MSU-Ok St
    SC-NC
    Ole Miss-Vandy
    LSU-TCU

    It hurts the conference as a whole. The country's not watching these Big Ten-MAC matchups. We don't care and that hurts the Big Ten in terms of rankings and perception later.
    Outside of Georgia vs. Clemson and maybe the LSU vs. TCU game, the UC Purdue game may be the most exciting. To be honest I don't want to see big time games the first games of the season. The teams are playing sloppy football to start the season off. I would much rather see them match up in game 3 or 4 of the season.

    As for comparative schedules, Alabama has a whopping 2 ranked teams on its schedule and to be honest their big non conference slobber knocker of Virginia Tech may end up the season weaker than Cal. Compare that with traveling across the country I would say that OSU's test against Cal is more difficult than Bama playing Va Tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    It hurts the conference as a whole. The country's not watching these Big Ten-MAC matchups. We don't care and that hurts the Big Ten in terms of rankings and perception later.
    Keeping the revenue close to home and financially helping the "smaller" schools! Those two USC games a few years back took a year or two off of my lifespan.

    Not to mention the BCS asks for this. Why risk one loss that may cost you a chance to play for it all in the end? Unless you are Alabama lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Outside of Georgia vs. Clemson and maybe the LSU vs. TCU game, the UC Purdue game may be the most exciting. To be honest I don't want to see big time games the first games of the season. The teams are playing sloppy football to start the season off. I would much rather see them match up in game 3 or 4 of the season.

    As for comparative schedules, Alabama has a whopping 2 ranked teams on its schedule and to be honest their big non conference slobber knocker of Virginia Tech may end up the season weaker than Cal. Compare that with traveling across the country I would say that OSU's test against Cal is more difficult than Bama playing Va Tech.
    For those of us in Ohio and Indiana, sure but for a football "fan", a lot of those SEC matchups are more compelling. Personally, I'm most interested in Ga/Clemson and since I'm a UC fan, Pur-UC. But after that I'd much rather watch any of the other SEC games that I listed before watching a Big Ten-MAC matchup.

    I was really comparing conference schedules here but if you want to look at individual ones, I agree, Alabama's is about as easy as it can get. I honestly don't know what kind of team Va Tech is expecting this year but I gotta believe coach Beamer will field a competitive one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed27 View Post
    SEC Week 2. Take out a conference game and the Florida/Miami rivalary game and you have the same thing the Big 10 does in Week 1. I wish college football scheduling didn't work like this and it seems like with the playoff coming that more teams are adding higher quality opponents, but it always seems like there are a few marquee out of conference games and a bunch of crap in every league.

    Miami (OH) @ Kentucky
    #10 Florida @ Miami (FL)
    12:21 PM Western Kentucky @ Tennessee
    3:30 PM Toledo @ Missouri
    3:30 PM Alcorn State @ Mississippi State
    4:30 PM #6 South Carolina @ #5 Georgi
    7:00 PM Samford @ Arkansas
    7:00 PM Southeast Missouri State @ Ole Miss
    7:00 PM UAB @ #12 LSU
    7:00 PM Sam Houston State @ #7 Texas A&M
    7:30 PM Arkansas State @ Auburn
    7:30 PM Austin Peay @ Vanderbilt
    The Big Ten might not have a #5 vs #6 matchup all year. That's huge. Miami/FL is big too. As for the Big Ten, all you have next week is Mich-ND which is a wonderful game and I'm bummed that it's going away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    The Big Ten might not have a #5 vs #6 matchup all year. That's huge. Miami/FL is big too. As for the Big Ten, all you have next week is Mich-ND which is a wonderful game and I'm bummed that it's going away.
    It's not the B1G scheduling that is keeping a #5 vs #6 game from happening, it's the quality of the football programs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
    Keeping the revenue close to home and financially helping the "smaller" schools!
    And that is really what it is all about. And it's being done all around the country.

    I think we all would agree that we really don't care to watch these cupcake match-ups between the big schools and the smaller conferences; but a decision has been made -and I don't know if it's one that's left to the individual schools or conferences to make, or comes from the NCAA - but we're seeing more an more of these "local" match-ups, and it's being done for the reasons you mention above... keep the revenue closer to home and help these smaller conferences.

    And I have to admit that conferences like MAC, for the most part, are definitely stronger, more competitive, to what it was years ago. I know they've put the scare into OSU, and a few other big schools, over the last several years. And it wasn't simply luck.

    And look at what is going on with the Big East, which, for the most part, was primarily a basketball oriented conference for eons. They were never really taken seriously when it came to what football programs existed. But because there is so much money to be made they have been making serious efforts, investing in their football programs, getting other programs to join the conference, to raise the level and become competitive with their football programs.

    So in the long run, while we may not like these cupcake games, is it having a positive effect in helping these programs become more competitive when before there wasn't that chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    And that is really what it is all about. And it's being done all around the country.

    I think we all would agree that we really don't care to watch these cupcake match-ups between the big schools and the smaller conferences; but a decision has been made -and I don't know if it's one that's left to the individual schools or conferences to make, or comes from the NCAA - but we're seeing more an more of these "local" match-ups, and it's being done for the reasons you mention above... keep the revenue closer to home and help these smaller conferences.

    And I have to admit that conferences like MAC, for the most part, are definitely stronger, more competitive, to what it was years ago. I know they've put the scare into OSU, and a few other big schools, over the last several years. And it wasn't simply luck.

    And look at what is going on with the Big East, which, for the most part, was primarily a basketball oriented conference for eons. They were never really taken seriously when it came to what football programs existed. But because there is so much money to be made they have been making serious efforts, investing in their football programs, getting other programs to join the conference, to raise the level and become competitive with their football programs.

    So in the long run, while we may not like these cupcake games, is it having a positive effect in helping these programs become more competitive when before there wasn't that chance?
    If it was about keeping the money at home then why doesnt OSU play UC and why is there vetching from Big10 fans when an SEC team plays a Samford or Alabama State? Also why are the Big 5 about to do something that will in all likelihood shut the little guys out of the big money and might possibly end full scholarships for the little fish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    It's not the B1G scheduling that is keeping a #5 vs #6 game from happening, it's the quality of the football programs...
    I couldn't agree more. This is why OSU needs to schedule fewer MAC schools in its non conference schedule whereas Alabama, not so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    And that is really what it is all about. And it's being done all around the country.

    I think we all would agree that we really don't care to watch these cupcake match-ups between the big schools and the smaller conferences; but a decision has been made -and I don't know if it's one that's left to the individual schools or conferences to make, or comes from the NCAA - but we're seeing more an more of these "local" match-ups, and it's being done for the reasons you mention above... keep the revenue closer to home and help these smaller conferences.

    And I have to admit that conferences like MAC, for the most part, are definitely stronger, more competitive, to what it was years ago. I know they've put the scare into OSU, and a few other big schools, over the last several years. And it wasn't simply luck.

    And look at what is going on with the Big East, which, for the most part, was primarily a basketball oriented conference for eons. They were never really taken seriously when it came to what football programs existed. But because there is so much money to be made they have been making serious efforts, investing in their football programs, getting other programs to join the conference, to raise the level and become competitive with their football programs.

    So in the long run, while we may not like these cupcake games, is it having a positive effect in helping these programs become more competitive when before there wasn't that chance?
    You can make an argument that no Ohio school needs more athletic revenue than does UC, so if that's OSU's primary objective, why won't they schedule the Bearcats?

    First and foremost OSU wants to open against easy teams so they can have a so called pre-season. I admire schools who are willing to start the season running like Alabama and Mich did last year

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    Here's the thing too.... People can rag on Va Tech and argue that playing in Atlanta isn't truly a neutral site (and I hate Alabama and certainly would entertain the neutral site argument) but Beemer's teams are perennial top 20 teams. Before last season, the Hoakies were on a run of 8 straight 10+ win seasons.

    This is a game the Tide could lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    This is a game the Tide could lose.
    And therein is the essence of a good game. If a ranked team "could lose" then it's a good game no matter who the opponent it. I agree...Bama fans would be a lot more comfortable if this first game was vs Buffalo


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