Pete has no one to blame for his current situation but himself. Pete accepted an agreement with Bart Giamatti whereby he was put on the permanently ineligible list without a hearing, with the understanding that he could apply for reinstatement. However, Giamatti told him he had to reconfigure his life. To make a comparison to the legal system, it is the equivalent to a criminal defendant pleading no contest without a trial and the judge imposing the maximum sentence with the provision that the judge would do a sentence review after a cerain period of time if the defendant could show that he has turned his life around. In such situations, if the defendant can show that they've worked hard to get a job or go to school, engaged in treatment if necessary, volunteered to help others with similar problems, etc., the judge is likely to grant a hearing and reduce the sentence. If the defendant continues to engage in behavior that indicates a likelihood to reoffend, the judge has the discretion to reject the request for a hearing.
Applying that to Pete, what has he done since being banned to show he's changed? He continued to deny the allegations and played himself as a victim, all the while continuing to hang out at casinos and horsetracks. When he finally came clean, he used it as a chance to cash in and now sells his confession as part of an autograph. And he still hangs out at casinos. To me that shows no remorse and a complete lack of respect for the man who gave him a glimmer of hope of getting back into baseball. Again, if he were a defendant asking for a sentence reduction, I don't know of any judge who would grant it under the circumstances. So let's stop saying Pete has done his time. His time is permanent ineligible. If he wanted a reprieve, he was told what to do. Unfortunately for him, he hasn't done it and now I think the time has passed.
Wear gaudy colors, or avoid display. Lay a million eggs or give birth to one. The fittest shall survive, yet the unfit may live. Be like your ancestors or be different. We must repeat!
bucksfan2 (08-01-2013),dougdirt (07-30-2013),dubc47834 (07-30-2013),Roy Tucker (07-31-2013),SporkLover (07-30-2013),The Operator (07-30-2013)
Okay. Am I the only one who wishes that both Pete Rose and Alex Rodriguez would just go away?
blumj (07-31-2013),bucksfan2 (08-01-2013),Dom Heffner (08-01-2013),dubc47834 (07-30-2013),SporkLover (07-30-2013)
blumj (07-31-2013)
http://nesn.com/2013/07/report-mlb-s...t-drug-policy/
MLB may be looking to suspend ARod under the CBA, not PED rules.
My dad got to enjoy 3 Reds World Championships by the time he was my age. So far, I've only gotten to enjoy one. Step it up Redlegs!
You got me there....at least he was betting them to win and his wagers did not affect any records or stats or cost anyone a job.....these PED users are costing union members jobs, they are altering records and they are directly affecting the outcome of a game.....while both peds and gambling on your team are both bad and deserve punishment, one does more damage than the other.
I wish Pete would not pass go, collect 200 dollars and go straight to the HOF....I hate that reds fans have almost all but turned their backs on Pete. It's time to forgive and move on, not forget, but still move on.....Pete did his time, lets let him enjoy the game and the career that made us all happy. He deserves his time at the podium.
remdog (07-30-2013)
Red in Chicago (07-30-2013),remdog (07-30-2013)
Both. The Yankees and ARod are in the bed they made together. If the Yankees didn't know he was using PED's then they had their head buried in the sand. They signed an aging ARod, already admitted to PED usage, to a massive contract. Now they are doing everything they can to avoid playing him this season so insurance picks up the tab this year and then suspension allows them not to pay him into next year.
I hope MLB hands out the suspensions one minute after the trade deadline. If a team has benefited from a cheating player they shouldn't have time to trade to fill that missing piece. It irritated me that the Giants knew about Cabrera's suspension last season and were able to make a move to replace him. If Nelson Cruz is suspended, which many feel he will be, then make the Rangers pay the price during the playoff stretch. They sure were taking advantage of his talents while he was juicing.
joshua (07-31-2013)
PuffyPig (07-31-2013)
Pete turned his back on us Reds fans to make a dollar. Also, turned his back on us when he refused to admit to what he done. Me, you, or anyone know for sure if he didn't bet on the Reds to lose. Sure, Pete had a HOF career, but the HOF isn't just about the game according to the by-laws!!!
PuffyPig (07-31-2013),redhawkfish (07-31-2013)
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