For specialized relief help.
Absolutely absurd, giving up Travis Wood for Sean Marshall. You can ALWAYS find LOOGY's abound, and Parra has been unreal lately, for the cost of nothing.
For specialized relief help.
Absolutely absurd, giving up Travis Wood for Sean Marshall. You can ALWAYS find LOOGY's abound, and Parra has been unreal lately, for the cost of nothing.
I remember Cards fans complaining that Jocketty always left their farm system pretty much dead.
I'm not complaining about the present, but the future, sure I am.
Signing Broxton and trading for Marshall has severely crippled both the teams' minor league talent, and has cost them salary flexibility for the next few years.
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2007 - The last year Jocketty was with the Cardinals:
27th - http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=5870
23rd - http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...organizations/
23rd - http://www.baseballamerica.com/onlin...07/263636.html
So the last 6 years Jocketty was with St Louis, they ranked 30th-28th-28th-30th-21st-23rdHEADED UP, OR DOWN?
Here's how the 30 organizations have stacked up in the previous five years:
'06 '05 '04 '03 '02
1. Tampa Bay Devil Rays 10 9 9 10 15
2. Colorado Rockies 11 6 15 25 24
3. Arizona Diamondbacks 1 13 13 21 23
4. Los Angeles Angels 4 1 3 5 17
5. New York Yankees 17 24 27 17 5
6. Los Angeles Dodgers 2 2 2 14 25
7. Milwaukee Brewers 5 3 1 16 26
8. Minnesota Twins 6 4 5 4 6
9. Boston Red Sox 8 21 23 27 28
10. Cleveland Indians 9 7 6 1 20
11. Kansas City Royals 23 28 19 26 21
12. Cincinnati Reds 30 23 26 24 14
13. New York Mets 28 19 10 13 27
14. Detroit Tigers 13 29 22 12 18
15. Atlanta Braves 7 5 4 2 7
16. Florida Marlins 3 14 14 8 10
17. Baltimore Orioles 12 25 19 30 29
18. Chicago Cubs 15 10 7 3 1
19. Pittsburgh Pirates 19 18 11 18 22
20. San Francisco Giants 18 17 24 11 12
21. Philadelphia Phillies 22 20 21 7 11
22. Houston Astros 20 22 29 23 3
23. St. Louis Cardinals 21 30 28 28 30
24. Seattle Mariners 27 11 12 9 2
25. Chicago White Sox 14 12 20 15 9
26. Toronto Blue Jays 25 15 8 6 13
27. Oakland Athletics 26 8 17 22 19
28. Texas Rangers 16 16 16 19 8
29. San Diego Padres 29 27 25 20 4
30. Washington Nationals 24 26 30 29 16
2006:
21st http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...006/26854.html
One problem:
Sean Marshall is not a LOOGY.
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Yeah, he's missed almost a whole year. It happens sometimes.
Joey Votto missed most of last year too. Is he "Glass Joe" now?
Oh, and the Reds haven't "lost" any trade yet. Travis Wood has put up around 3/4 of a season of a really good ERA built upon an unsustainable BABIP.
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I feel like everyone's happy because Hey, We're finally winning!
But in all honesty, this team sure feels like it's built on credit with high risk.
Small market teams will always have a shorter window to contend, and must take advantage of it when they are contending.
The theory that small market teams can contend now and keep building up a strong farm system just isn't true. Unless they simply draft smarter than everyone else every year, once they taste success their lower draft ranking will ensure that their farm system gets weaker while they contend. As their players get more expensive, they'll have to pick and chose whom they keep. With less dollars than everyone else, there is simply no margin for error.
So, when small market teams get into a position to contend, they need to go for it.
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With Cingrani and Stephenson on the way, I don't think starting pitching is an issue with the Reds.
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
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