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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Doesn't sound completely unlike the Krivsky administration.
    I was going to say the same thing. lol.
    Under Wayne, there seemed to be a transaction every month, but overall the team slid backwards. Occasionally there would be a big step forward, but then it was followed by 4 small steps backwards.

    Ironically, Wayne K was very popular, and is still thought of well of on this board.
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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    He has a very cool name.

    I might name myself Zach Duke in my next life.
    I like "The Duke of Zach" myself.

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    I was going to say the same thing. lol.
    Under Wayne, there seemed to be a transaction every month, but overall the team slid backwards. Occasionally there would be a big step forward, but then it was followed by 4 small steps backwards.

    Ironically, Wayne K was very popular, and is still thought of well of on this board.
    Yup. And Narron got fired after a start to an 07 season that no manager could have avoided, and Homer was called up before he was ready. Wayne made some nice acquisitions, but he felt the heat to 'win now' and tinkered way too much (cf: Getting Cody Ross for pennies on the dollar, throwing him away and keeping Quinton McCracken).
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    So, because a rookie GM in Krivsky made a lot of moves and that didn't work out well, that excuses Walt from doing things like leaving Pedro Villarreal on the 40-man roster? It excuses him not addressing the issues in LF and 3B?

    BTW: Wayne Krivsky has never been hired as a GM since. That tells you what the rest of baseball thinks about the job he did. Even Jim Bowden got a second job as a GM!

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    that excuses Walt from doing things like leaving Pedro Villarreal on the 40-man roster?
    Point me out a flawless 40 man roster.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    He has a very cool name.
    Not as cool as this Duke.

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    These end of the roster discussions can get wicked.

    Pay attention to the open sky

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Managing the roster day to day is a fraction of what a GM's duties are. An MLB GM is a 24-7 job. Calling any MLB GM lazy is one of the most ignorant statements anyone could make.

    And Zach Duke has been a terrible pitcher for quite some time now.

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Just noticed this thread, didn't even know he was in the organization.

    He had one good season three Presidential cycles ago.

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crumbley View Post
    Just noticed this thread, didn't even know he was in the organization.

    He had one good season three Presidential cycles ago.
    Actually he's not in the organization now. He asked and was granted his release a few days ago.
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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    For anyone who was worried, the Duke is back with Louisville.

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    For anyone who was worried, the Duke is back with Louisville.
    A great signing!!!!

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    For anyone who was worried, the Duke is back with Louisville.
    So basically, he opted out, thinking he could find a team more likely to put him on an MLB roster, couldn't, then came back to the Reds.
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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    So basically, he opted out, thinking he could find a team more likely to put him on an MLB roster, couldn't, then came back to the Reds.
    I guess all GMs play shuffleboard.

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    Re: Why is Zach Duke not on the team?

    And during the same period Adam Rosals was released 15 times.

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