My "favorite" superfans.
My "favorite" superfans.
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
Larkin Fan (08-21-2013)
Blitz Dorsey (08-06-2013)
From the nights I've worked out in the RF seats my impression of Chuck D is that of a nice guy who is there mostly trying to be as positive as he can in cheering the Reds. The negative jeers are few and far between while the positive cheers are abounding. That said I don't find them particularly witty, funny, or pleasing to the ears. He leaves some to be desired if he is our biggest super-fan, but you take what you can get. I'd much rather have him yelling his heart out passionately than being told to shut up.
It seems silly to be chastising him over such a mildly aggressive series of chants. I've never personally heard a swear word come out of this guy's mouth (intended to deride an opposing fan or player that is). He's not getting drunk and being abusive to anyone. I've never actually seen him drinking at a game as far as I can recall. He's simply there to cheer on the Reds. This incident (if you want to call it that) hardly seems to warrant any action that can be perceived as telling a fan to ... well ... not be such a big fan.
That said the two things the Reds asked him to do really aren't much more than a wimpy pat on the wrist. There are already lines all over the park where fans are asked not to cross in order to allow for a reasonable amount of space between them, the entrances to the aisles, and the handicap-accessible seats. That part of it is nothing but reinforcing standing ballpark policy. It can be a pain to move around around those stacks, and those guys do like to stand right in the way of the entrance to the aisle immediately in front of them. It's a hassle and it's not much to ask Chuck D and his crew to be considerate to other fans, staff, etc. in this respect.
And asking him to tone down his cheers? Tone down what exactly? They aren't really inflammatory in the first place, and I don't see this as anything more than an empty threat. Chuck D would have been wise to realize this, not make a big deal about this, and just carry about his business as usual. I can understand his feeling sort of betrayed by an organization he loves and devotes much of his time to cheering for, but acting like this really doesn't serve any purpose.
The fact this actually got so far that some in sports media are actually wasting time on it is just laughable. It's laughable Cards fans got offended over such mild language. It's laughable that security told them to tone down their cheering. It's laughable that Chuck D is responding in such a way. So now if you excuse me I'm gonna go watch a certain George Carlin sketch concerning the nature of offensive language and laugh my ass off.
"He looked like a surfer kid from SoCal," manager Dusty Baker says. "He didn't say much, but you could tell he was cool."
5TimeWSChamps (08-22-2013),Chip R (08-21-2013)
The world needs thicker skin. Cards fans, Reds fans, Reds management, and Chuck D included. Everyone just man up. There's no crying (literally or figuratively) in baseball.
"He looked like a surfer kid from SoCal," manager Dusty Baker says. "He didn't say much, but you could tell he was cool."
Reds organization is being pretty lame here.
Last edited by Matt700wlw; 08-21-2013 at 06:31 AM.
Griffey012 (08-21-2013)
“I used to be the No. 1 Reds Fan,” Dorn said in a dejected voice, unusual for his normally upbeat personality. “Now, I’m just ‘1 Reds Fan,’ ” he sighed, “one of many, one of millions.”
This might be part of his problem, he didn't realize he was never more important than any other fan.
“I love to go to the game and give my all so we can win,” Dorn said
Does he realize he isn't playing?
I doubt he really said anything offensive. I have sat out there a few times and have never heard it. But still you are one dude you aren't a part of the team, and he really comes across to me as attention seeking.
CoachBombay (08-22-2013),reds44 (08-21-2013)
Dear God how is this a story? "Chuck D" acts like a child at games. He's a grown man wearing PJ pants and cowboy hats yelling the entire game. Now he's acting like a child by the way he reacted to being told to tone it down.
He doesn't help the team win games, he's just some weird dude in the OF. He's done well to make himself famous, which I'm sure what this entire thing was all about though.
Caveat Emperor (08-21-2013),CoachBombay (08-22-2013),RedFanAlways1966 (08-21-2013)
The pack chanted: “Whiny birds.” That moved the two Cards fans to tears.
“I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”
Boston Red (08-21-2013),membengal (08-22-2013),OnBaseMachine (08-21-2013),RadfordVA (08-21-2013),RichRed (08-21-2013)
I was on the fence about this whole issue until the Enquirer article. If he thought that interview was supposed to help his case he's dead wrong. All that article does is make him look like a whiny attention seeking jerk.
You are not above all other Reds fans because you are loud or have the time and money to go to every game. Every other standing room area in the park has those yellow lines you have to stand behind, don't freaking whine because you have to follow the rules like everyone else.
I understand being bummed about the organization telling you how to cheer. It sucks, get over it. Follow their rules and get back in the stadium to see your favorite team.
5TimeWSChamps (08-22-2013),Hoosier Red (08-21-2013),OGB (08-21-2013),RedFanAlways1966 (08-21-2013),Tom Servo (08-21-2013)
Aren't boisterous groups of fans almost as old as the game itself? Wasn't there an infamous group called The Royal Rooters, or somesuch back in the 1900's?
I probably wouldn't join in the festivities, but these types of characters have always been a part of the fabric of Baseball culture.
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