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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    Quote Originally Posted by tomnuetten View Post
    votto trustīs his teammates, he donīt want to make outs => the inning continues and men get on base

    if balls are out of the strike zone => donīt hit it... if theres a good pitch to hit, hit it...

    heīs been great offensively (I donīt care how many rbi he has)... defensively heīs been not as good as he can
    Agree; Votto will see less to hit and the best player in MLB history would have taken a walk every single at-bat.
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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    I think Dusty really needs to sit him once Ludwick comes back so he gets more rest. He often looks drawn and slightly worn out. Occasionally sitting him down the stretch will be important, especially if the division and first wildcard get far out of reach and we maintain a lead on the 2nd wild card.

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    I really can't believe people are still bringing RBI's up as a criticism of Joey Votto.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    Can I agree with the original poster that if the Reds are gonna make a leap in the standings it's prolly going to be because of a Joey Votto outburst while also not thinking it's an RBI issue?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Can I agree with the original poster that if the Reds are gonna make a leap in the standings it's prolly going to be because of a Joey Votto outburst while also not thinking it's an RBI issue?
    I don't think it has to be that. Votto is one of a few players in the lineup (Phillips and Frazier) who I think can preform better, as well as LF when Ludwick returns.
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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    I really can't believe people are still bringing RBI's up as a criticism of Joey Votto.
    It's a lack of knowledge on how runs are really created.

    RBI have been the indicator of "production" for so long that people just don't see how flawed it is.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Can I agree with the original poster that if the Reds are gonna make a leap in the standings it's prolly going to be because of a Joey Votto outburst while also not thinking it's an RBI issue?
    There's only so much Joey can do. Numbers are suppressed this year. There isn't a single NL player with an OPS over 1.000.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    I didnt have any problems with his offense last night. Or rarely ever.

    But his defense last night, or lack thereof is what concerns me. The 2 doubles and the triple were all on him. Props to Latos for getting out of those innings without giving up any runs

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    How on earth do you blame three balls hit right on the line on Votto?

    The one single between him and Phillips was an inexusable mishap by him though.
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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    My god, make it stop.

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    I don't have a problem when players drive in runs.
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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    Pirates have 8 players providing above league average offense.

    Cardinals have 7.

    Reds have 3.

    As long as there are that many holes in offense they are not going to be consistent enough to avoid people complaining about the offense. It is amazing they have scored 3rd most runs in NL as is.

    In summary I wouldn't blame or expect more out of one of the only 3 people actually hitting on the team.

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    REally? I really didnt expect someone to be okay with his lack of effort on all 3 of those balls. so thats a surprise ...how can you not blame him? A simple fall down would have blocked all 3 of them. Im sorry but when 3 balls go right by you in the same place and you dont dive for 1 of them something isnt right

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    My only criticism of Votto is that once a week or so, he'll vapor lock on defense and look like he's never played the game before. It's like his mind is somewhere else at the moment. I'm pretty sure I can live with that. (It used to happen way more frequently when he first took over the job.)

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    Re: A Little More From Joey V

    Quote Originally Posted by coachpipe View Post
    REally? I really didnt expect someone to be okay with his lack of effort on all 3 of those balls. so thats a surprise ...how can you not blame him? A simple fall down would have blocked all 3 of them. Im sorry but when 3 balls go right by you in the same place and you dont dive for 1 of them something isnt right
    This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here. I would have to go back and rewatch the doubles but the triple was barely even a fair ball.....and it was Joey's fault for not getting to it? By the time it was to him it was in foul territory by a good bit. He would have almost had to have been playing in foul territory to get to it as it was hit hard. That is an insane argument.

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