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    Re: Meanwhile, in the nations capital.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fil3232 View Post
    Is this assuming Strasburg remains healthy? If so, that's an assumption I wouldn't be comfortable making.
    Well if you want him to remain healthy, it isn't wise to run him out 200 innings the first year back after major surgery given he'd never pitched more than 150 in a season.
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    Re: Meanwhile, in the nations capital.

    I watch the Nats a lot. Last year they basically tempted the baseball gods by not only shutting down Strasburg but by proclaiming how they will be there (in the WS hunt) year after year. Call it arrogance, call it bad karma or a kenahora (Yiddish term for not tempting bad things when they are good), but the Nats set themselves up for this season.

    Further, they only bat one way -- they just swing for the fences. And with the air in DC, it turns out to be lots of balls hit to the warning track. I was at a game last month and the lowly Brewers played small ball and smoked them. Why? Because before you swing for the fences, you need to have runners on base. The Nats just don't get on base enough and when they do hit homers, its usually Harper running around the bases with no one on.

    Frankly, I think the Nats may be falling behind the Mets by next season.
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    Re: Meanwhile, in the nations capital.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Well if you want him to remain healthy, it isn't wise to run him out 200 innings the first year back after major surgery given he'd never pitched more than 150 in a season.
    If you want Strasberg to remain healthy, reassign him to the gift shop. He was injured this year, and likely will be injured again.
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    Re: Meanwhile, in the nations capital.

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    If he wants to play, I'm not going to stop him. I'm not going to force him to play either.

    Pretty easy middle ground to reach. Forcing a player to stop playing, who wants to play, is an extreme position.
    That's the ownerships way of copping out IMO. Every player is going to want to play. It's in their blood. The Bronson Arroyo's are a rare breed. A player who will actually tell you when he's hurt and probably shouldn't continue. 99.9% of the players will tell you "I'm fine coach" when their arm is hanging on with a strip of duct tape. A responsible (and successful) organization will take the players best interest into account and put their health above anything on the diamond.
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    Re: Meanwhile, in the nations capital.

    And btw...Dusty is FANTASTIC in this regard. His unspoken rule of "give 'em another day" when a guy is coming back from the DL goes a long way IMO in making sure that players stay healthy longer.
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    Re: Meanwhile, in the nations capital.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    That's the ownerships way of copping out IMO. Every player is going to want to play. It's in their blood. The Bronson Arroyo's are a rare breed. A player who will actually tell you when he's hurt and probably shouldn't continue. 99.9% of the players will tell you "I'm fine coach" when their arm is hanging on with a strip of duct tape. A responsible (and successful) organization will take the players best interest into account and put their health above anything on the diamond.
    A successful organization will ultimately only be defined by their on-field results. What you call putting health above anything on the diamond, I call protecting assets. And for me that's the rub.

    A pitcher like Strasburg (heck, any pitcher really) is more or less an un-protectable asset over the long term with any certainty. Injuries can and will happen. Their risk can be mitigated, sure, and if WAS weren't the best NL team last year, I'd agree the only rational thing to do was shut him down.

    But they were the NL's best team. And they had a legit chance to leverage a risky asset for their first championship. And mind you, not automatically be cashing it all in. Perhaps, sure. But perhaps not also. From an organizational standpoint, I don't agree with what they did.

    Really interesting debate either way.

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