Reds vs Cubs 8/14/13 -- A sweep day at Wrigley?

[Mutaman]

With 5 more wins the Reds would be 73-47 (would be 1/2 behind the braves for best record in MLB)

So, basically, you are disappointed because the Reds do not have the 2nd best record in baseball (1/2 game behind the braves)

Gotcha.

Yeah, pretty much where we were at last year when we had Stubbs playing every day instead of Choo.

[Raisor]

Tough crowd.

[Mutaman]

Tough crowd.

You really predicted they'd win the division by 10? I'd sure like to see that post.

[Raisor]

You really predicted they'd win the division by 10? I'd sure like to see that post.

Over and over. Easiest to find is probably the win prediction thread.

Still think they can do it too. But I'm not going to be disappointed in the regular season unless the don't make the playoffs.

My disappointment level will grow higher for every level they reach:

Win World Series no disappointment.
Win NL lose World Series disappointed
Make NL championship. Don't make World Series- more disappointed.
Don't make NL championship more disappointed
So on and so forth

[Brutus]

Cherry picking. Choo's career Numbers are distorted by one very bad injury ridden year. His WAR is 3 points lower than what it was in 2010-2011 playing in a much friendlier hitters park. I expected better.

He has almost 3,500 plate appearances (and will after tonight or tomorrow) and you think one injury-riddled, 350-PA season that was 100 points below his average drastically changes his career OPS?

But you know what? We'll play along. Even if you completely exclude his 2011 season, his career OPS coming into the year was .860. It's .854.

So I ask again, what sort of expectations did you have for him?

[Mutaman]

He has almost 3,500 plate appearances (and will after tonight or tomorrow) and you think one injury-riddled, 350-PA season that was 100 points below his average drastically changes his career OPS?

But you know what? We'll play along. Even if you completely exclude his 2011 season, his career OPS coming into the year was .860. It's .854.

So I ask again, what sort of expectations did you have for him?

I thought he'd hit better than .270. A 2.3 WAR is disappointing. I'm surprised at how many boneheaded plays he makes. His defense has been fine.
I thought the change of scenery and playing in this little league park combined with relativly good health would trigger big numbers. Hasn't happened.

[RedTeamGo!]

4th best obp in the majors

he is the leadoff hitter. it is his job to get on base and this season he is literally the best leadoff hitter on the planet in that category.

[Sea Ray]

Good point.

I guess the "more I want" is for them to have that kind of record against the Cardinals (I live in SL, so I'm naturally skewed on what I see and care about), and to win a playoff series or two.

I'm disappointed that they have't fared better againt good teams but overall they're right where I figured they'd be. The Pirates and Cards are ahead of where I thought they'd be

[757690]

I'm disappointed that they have't fared better againt good teams but overall they're right where I figured they'd be. The Pirates and Cards are ahead of where I thought they'd be

Exactly. It seemed that the prevailing view going into this season was that the Reds wouldn't win as many games as last year, but that their wasn't much competition in the division, so they would win it easily. Very few predicted the Pirates and Cards would be this good this late into the season.

[reds44]

You're ignoring the ball park we play in. It makes those stats meaningless. I seriously doubt that the majority of Red's fans are satisfied with the way the offense has performed, Ludwick or no Ludwick.

Hasn't GABP played as a pretty fair park over the years? Heavy on the homers yes, but I think on runs scored it hasn't been too much of an offensive park.

[texasdave]

Hasn't GABP played as a pretty fair park over the years? Heavy on the homers yes, but I think on runs scored it hasn't been too much of an offensive park.

This means that in the years 2010-2012, Great American Ballpark produced 107 runs for every 100 runs produced in the average MLB park, and 135 HRs for every 100 homers, for a mean Park Factor of 121.

This is an extreme hitter's park.

http://www.parkfactors.com/CIN

For 2013 it is the fifth-best park in the majors for scoring per ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor

[traderumor]

Thems the facts. If it wasn't Joey it'd have a lot more legs.

Then there are those who create this need to dog on someone because they feel like they get special treatment in some environment. That's what I'm seeing.

[Sea Ray]

Then there are those who create this need to dog on someone because they feel like they get special treatment in some environment. That's what I'm seeing.

I can only speak for myself and I don't like to see any Cin Red not hustling. I hope it was an attitude thing rather than an injury. If it is attitude, I hope Dusty speaks to him

[Brutus]

GABP is not an "extreme" hitters park. It's a home-run hitters park, but it suppresses doubles and hits in general.

In fact, from 2006-2012, it was anywhere between 7th-18th in runs, with no more than 11% above average in a given year.

While it's certainly a hitter's park, it's really only been an "extreme" park about once in its history.