The Oregonian with the scoop. strange story
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...of-spite-.html
The Oregonian with the scoop. strange story
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...of-spite-.html
Someone on the Phillies is going to be out of a job
99% of all numbers only tell 33% of the story so when looking at the numbers remember that numbers is plural...
Someone should lose their job but with Ruben Amaro running the show it's hard to say with any degree of certainty.Originally Posted by RedlegJake
I just don't understand this from Philly's POV. Even if they felt like Wetzler screwed them over, the Phillies gain nothing by turning him into the NCAA and run the risk of alienating a lot of other players / "advisors" in the process.
Chuckie (03-03-2014)
happy ending. still a wierd story
Coaches and "advisers" all over the country have already come out and said they aren't going to let the Phillies talk to their players or even give them access to any of their records on players.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-...-states-season
Ben Wetzler suspended for 20 percent of Oregon State's season
Oregon State pitcher Ben Wetzler was selected by the Phillies in the fifth round in last June's MLB draft. As is standard procedure these days, he consulted with an agent while deciding whether to sign with the Phillies or to stay in school. He elected the latter.
In turn, the Phillies turned in Wetzler for the NCAA for contact with an agent and now he's been cost 20 percent of his senior year.
That's just as childish as what the Phillies did. We also don't know the whole story.
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No it really isn't. That still leaves open 29 teams that can get them and the Phillies can still draft the kid without them if they want.
M2 (02-22-2014)
The NCAA, where if you have somebody talk to somebody else about you eventually paying you, we'll take you down hard (while continuing to make money off you ourselves).
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
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Agreed. There's no reason to deal with an organization like that.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
But we don't know why the Phillies did this.
According the reporting, what the kids did was no different than what nearly every other possible draft pick out of college does.
So why would the Phillies single these guys out, considering that other players that the Phillies drafted but didn't sign, also committed the same technical NCAA infraction? It makes zero sense for the Phillies to single these kids out, unless these kids did something unique and uncalled for during negotiations.
It seems like a childish way for the Phillies to handle it, but I would deduct that these kids did something to deserve some retribution. I'm pretty sure we don't know the whole story, and if we did, we'd see it differently.
Hoping to change my username to 75769024
If there is more than one show, things like this wouldn't happen.
I'll forever be a fan of Brandon Jennings for just deciding to play ball in Europe, when presented with institutional coercion. That's life.
As far as we know, this is the first time it has happened since the early 90's and the Phillies did it TWICE last season. What probably happened is that these kids probably floated that they would sign for X amount and the Phillies offered it and the kids changed their minds. The Phillies got mad about it and turned them in. No matter how you slice it, the Phillies did this out of spite. There is absolutely no reason at all for them to care one bit to turn someone in to the NCAA other than spite. They gain absolutely nothing out of turning them in except "payback".
one door closes and another opens, and all of a sudden the maze is just a choice. looks like it'll be a matter of "catch up"
Last edited by Orenda; 02-22-2014 at 06:16 PM.
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