I'm hardly one to be above the fray, but there's no right answer to this, it all depends on who you talk to, when you talk to them, and what measuring stick (if even possible) is used. An awful lot of chests puffed up and offense being taken by seemingly everyone involved here.
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So by this logic, OSU and Michigan are well past rapid decline both in fortunes and fandom since OSU has 1 national championship since 1970 (2 if you count fake ones) and Michigan has 1 since 1948 (2 if you count fake ones).Originally Posted by Brutus
And FSU vs Florida is the greatest rivalry and most popular nationally because since 1982, the combined National championships between the two dwarf OSU and Michigan while their winning percentages (FSU and Florida) rank 3rd and 5th... Auburn by the way is tenth. No one has probably even heard of them.
Last edited by jojo; 12-02-2013 at 06:02 PM.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Ohio State has more BCS victories (7) than any program in America since its inception in 1998.
Some "rapid decline" eh?
For the record, Alabama has three. Auburn has two. Michigan also has two.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Did any Michigan fans kill each other this weekend for not being upset enough about the Maize and Blue's loss to the Buckeyes?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-Auburn.html
So we're not talking about national championships now? Bama sure could've used such moving goal posts Saturday because like your arguments, they didn't fair well with stationary posts.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
OSU Haters always gonna hate...
Alabama was a complete dumpster fire prior to Saban.
Rapid decline would be Tennessee in the last decade and Notre Dame in the last generation. Nebraska is on the path with Pellini. Egad.
Florida State's record from 2001-2011 was shockingly bad. 4-6 losses almost every season and no top 15 finishes. No BCS appearances from 2000 until last year (beating Northern Illinois).
Spurrier-Saban LSU -Meyer-Saban Bama have completely dominated the SEC for the last 20 years. Everyone elses fanbase is largely a hanger on claming 14 team SEC conference superiority. Most Gator fans laugh at the idea of "SEC-SEC-SEC".
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Seriously, this is an argument for SOS ?
Texas (4x)
USC (2)
Miami (2)
Oklahoma (2)
Oregon (2)
Virginia Tech (2)
North Carolina (2)
California (2)
Boston College (2)
TCU (2)
Colorado
Washington
NC State
Cincinnati (3)
vs. Navy in Baltimore
San Diego State
Northern Illinois
If you play a team in a bowl game, you didn't pick to play that team. I want you carpetbaggers to look at Alabama's SOS the past 6 years if we are including bowl games.
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I'm not including bowl games. Those are scheduled non-conference games
LOL
If I had included bowl games, Texas would be on there a 5th time, Oregon a 3rd, Florida (twice), LSU, Arkansas, Notre Dame and Oklahoma State all once each. But I wasn't including them. I was only including non-conference games to show that it is absolutely insane to criticize Ohio State's scheduling of opponents.
Last edited by Brutus; 12-02-2013 at 07:41 PM.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
This entire discussion is moot, really. Manufactured controversy. If OSU wins Saturday, they're in. Period. Whine and cry all you want about it, that's the way it is. Auburn lost by two scores to a three loss football team that almost lost to horrid Arkansas. They are in the middle of a great stretch, but they lost. Period.
No, we're including National Championships. I didn't move any goalposts. I merely expanded to show that Ohio State absolutely blows Alabama and Auburn away in recent years in playing actual big boy football for a period of time.
You were the one trying to act like Ohio State was on a "rapid decline" just because it only had one title recently. Look at the big picture, and it's clear Auburn isn't on Ohio State's level.
More wins, better winning percentage, more bowl victories, more Heismans, more national titles, more BCS wins, more first round picks.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Crazy, I'd have lost money betting Alabama and Auburn both would have more BCS victories. Auburn especially - two is really low.
Oregonred's point about a few SEC coaches dominating college football while the rest of the SEC hangs on is a very good one.
Schools like Georgia and South Carolina are overrated almost every year it seems like, just because of the SEC halo.
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Georgia has played in 3 BCS games in the last 10 years and probably deserved to be there last year but couldn't. South Carolina will likely finish this year ranked in the top 10 for the third straight year.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
Georgia has lost 4+ games 4 out of the last 5 years. South Carolina has been decent the last three years, true. Have they ever been in a BCS bowl?
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
No. Does that make them a lesser program than Iowa or Illinois, who has?
When all is said and done more is said than done.
Negative.
Here are the appearances/records of teams currently in the SEC & Big Ten
Florida (7, 5-2)
LSU (5, 4-1)
Alabama (5, 3-2)
Georgia (3, 2-1)
Auburn (2, 2-0)
Tennessee (2, 1-1)
Arkansas (1, 0-1)
Texas A&M (1, 0-1)
Ohio State (10, 7-3)
Michigan (5, 2-3)
Wisconsin (5, 2-3)
Iowa (2, 1-1)
Nebraska (2, 1-1)
Penn State (2, 1-1)
Illinois (2, 0-2)
Purdue (1, 0-1)
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
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