Posted without comment to provide context relevant to some of the debates concerning rankings/championship resumes throughout the thread.
Posted without comment to provide context relevant to some of the debates concerning rankings/championship resumes throughout the thread.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Auburn didn't face 11 bowl eligible opponents.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
"Only" 10...Originally Posted by dabvu2498
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
jmac (12-08-2013)
The chart's a little sketchy, that's all.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
FSU (-8.5)? Crrrraaaazzzzeee
When all is said and done more is said than done.
Yeah, I thought it would be closer to 10.
Indeed. For awhile now the OSU homers were pulling out every excuse to defend their team but now we see why there were those that said OSU was not the 2nd best team in the country. It wasn't because of SEC bias or because they just hated everything Buckeye. It was because those sports fans' eyes told them OSU was not as good as a one loss Auburn team. I am one of those. I watched OSU struggle against mediocre competition such as Mich and NW and fly through an easy pre-conference schedule. FSU also breezed through and easy schedule but to their credit, they did it by winning by over 40 pts per game.
MSU did do this thread a favor. It's gotten the OSU folks to stay away
Wow, is that stat about Ohio State true?
I'm sure it is. Auburn's run is pretty crazy, but I'd be interested to see how many wins against top 5 opponents other teams have. Off the top of my head, I think OSU has only lost 2 games against top 5 opponents as well during that time period (both NC games). If you extend it to top 10 wins though, OSU's record is much more impressive with multiple BCS wins.
The thing with that chart, is that give or take 80% of it is simply about the strength of the opponent.
Auburn at #2 is a decided point right now, so I'm not arguing that point.
But it was being used as propaganda across the net (I don't know who made it). 11 rows to compare BCS contenders and not one devoted to computer rankings? Not one devoted to any offensive/defensive team stats? Not one showing AP or Coaches poll ranking....they were all squeezed into the BCS poll row, as you can see. But we get a row each for wins vs. ranked, top-10, and BCS-top 25 teams.
I expected 14. People who care about these things (I don't really because for me betting on a game completely ruins watching sports) say that the final line will end up somewhere around 7 pts and the original 9.5 was mostly non-vegas entities trying to generate action.
A 7 pt spread in a title game is basically Vegas saying FSU is a heavy favorite. That seems about right.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Not that OSU needs any defending, but come on people...
Of the top of my head, OSU beat #2 Texas and #2 Michigan in 2006. The first time any team ever had to play three #2's in the same season.
Michigan was close if not in the top 5 when OSU shocked them in 2004 with an unknown backup QB named Troy Smith. Notre Dame was top 5 in the Fiesta Bowl matchup in 2006 - That OSU team was nasty and loaded and much better than this year's OSU team, OSU had five first round picks after that season. (The infamous UF/OSU game was the next season)
Oregon was #6 or #7 (and a hefty favorite) when OSU shut them down in the Rose Bowl in 2009.
2008 Ohio State played three teams ranked in the top 3 (USC, PSU and Texas a loss in one of the best BCS games ever).
Also they beat Iowa and Penn State in 2009 and both finished in the top 8. Iowa won the Orange Bowl and PSU beat LSU in the Citrus.
OSU is 6-3 in BCS games and none of those were cheapies. No program has more wins.
Since 2000, OSU played home and homes with UCLA, Texas, USC and Miami. And each was scheduled when the resepective programs were top five. They also played home and homes with Arizona and Washington twice (lot of long standing connections with UW and OSU coaching staffs under Don James and Woody/Bruce) and NC State when some mediocre guy named Philip Rivers was the QB.
When Cal was scheduled they were an up and coming top 20 program with offensive wizard Jeff Tedford, Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch, DeSean Jackson. Traditionally OSU likes to schedule home and home series with Pac-10 teams and in big markets. Vanderbilt was on the schedule this year but they pulled out last minute. OSU's terrible AD, Gene Smith, should have done better than FAMU knowing that Cal was down.
Just checking OSU futrues, they have home and homes with Va Tech, Oklahoma, Texas and Oregon over the next decade. They have a home and home with BC, TCU and North Carolina which is interesting and obviously targeted at recruiting hotbeds - I suspect TCU will be at Jerry Dome. OSU has a huge and transplanted fanbase so they strategically place games around the country (Navy in FedEx Field next year). Also I believe the B1G will be adding a ninth game now that the annual B1G/Pac-10 regular season plan fell apart.
OSU needs to apologize to absolutely no one for its OOC scheduling.
Now as an example go check Auburn's OOC regular season schedule over the last 15 years for a good laugh. Here's a link to the next few years.
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sec/auburn-tigers.php
Last edited by oregonred; 12-08-2013 at 10:06 PM.
Gizmo (12-12-2013)
So what you're saying is that it is true? Also, saying Auburn needs to apologize to absolutely no one for its conference schedule or it's SOS over the last 15 years is no joke.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
What is true? In 2005/2006 alone OSU beat three top five teams.
You seriosuly believe Missouri was really a top five team this year (best win against, Texas A&M). No Bama, LSU or Auburn in the regular season. Check out that OOC schedule.
Other than a trip to WVU, Auburn hasn't left the Confederacy (or more specifically Georgia or South Carolina) for any OOC regular season game since 2000.
Last edited by oregonred; 12-08-2013 at 10:20 PM.
Yet Aubun's SOS year in and year out can't be credibly criticized. I'm not sure wht you're trying to argue about.
Alo the comment about top 5 victories was really addressing 2013 resumes. Who cares what OSU did a decade ago? Fact of the matter is that the 24-0 was a straw dog record.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
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