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    Most overrated player in baseball?

    There's lots of candidates and no set criteria. I'm curious to see what others think.

    Yet, for me, it's Jacoby Ellsbury with a bullet. He's had one big year and he turns 30 in a few weeks. His legs are more valuable than his bat and some foolish team is going to pay him a king's ransom this winter. A king's ransom he will never come close to earning.
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    For me it changes every year, but it's always a player from a team in eastern Missouri.
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    I think it would be easy to say ARod or Ryan Howard for what they're paid and the production they've given per dollar.

    However, I'm going to go collectively and say "The Closer"
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I think it would be easy to say ARod or Ryan Howard for what they're paid and the production they've given per dollar.
    Might put Pujols and Hamilton in that class as well. Although the really big $$$ is yet to be paid to them. LAA hoping it gets better than this year's production out of both of them.
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Puig. He doesn't walk on water. Given how he's currently "rated", he'd have to walk on water to not be overrated.

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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Red View Post
    Puig. He doesn't walk on water. Given how he's currently "rated", he'd have to walk on water to not be overrated.
    No but Puig is so hot the water turns to steam and he crosses over the dry aftermath.

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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Brandon Phillips? Gulp.
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Playadlc View Post
    Brandon Phillips? Gulp.
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
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    Why? To me, he's a prime candidate for the underrated list.
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    Why? To me, he's a prime candidate for the underrated list.
    Because many on these boards believe he is so valuable. WAR started it.

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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Because many on these boards believe he is so valuable. WAR started it.
    . I am not a WAR guy because I hate the defensive component entirely and am skeptical of the calculation of replacement level somewhat. I am a big fan of rc27 because I've seen the regression analysis that backs it up. Last year if I recall correctly be played more than 20 games at ss, 20 games at 2b, and oodles in the of. In terms of rc27 he was something like number 1 among shortstops, number 2 among 2b and in the too 10 at rf.
    I think he is overlooked because he plays for tb, a lot of his value comes from walks, not batting average, he strikes out a fair amount, and early in his career he was legitimately awful as a major leaguer
    How, then, are those people of the future—who are taking steroids every day—going to look back on baseball players who used steroids? They're going to look back on them as pioneers. They're going to look back at it and say "So what?" - Bill James, Cooperstown and the 'Roids

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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    I have long been hard pressed to determine what exactly BJ Upton does especially well.

    I think most fans here in NY hear 'Justin Morneau', remember him winning the AL MVP, and assume he's just been putting up similar numbers for the past several years because they don't pay attention to Minnesota based on the way they talk about trading for him. He's been okay since then but nothing all that special, and he can't stay healthy.
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    Re: Most overrated player in baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    I have long been hard pressed to determine what exactly BJ Upton does especially well.
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