I miss Adam Dunn.
94 and winning the division and the NLCS but falling in the WS to Toronto in 6
94 Reds / 86 Cards / 85 Pirates / 76 Cubs / 72 Brewers
Let's make it real simple: Is there a team in baseball that wouldn't pay Joey Votto $17M this season (assuming they were all actually trying to compete - which means Houston/Miami were going to actually spend some money)? I can't imagine a scenario where they wouldn't.
It's not the $43M we are paying Joey from 2013-2015 that are the issue. The Reds should (and better) make some hay with those years. We're robbing from Peter to pay Paul with Votto and Phillips backloaded contracts.
It's the $192M Joey makes after turning 32 from 2016-2023 that is likely to become an issue and lead to some lean years down the road. You can't look at the $17M this year in a vacuum, that's about 7% of what the Reds are on the hook for over the next decade.
Joey is having a fine year, not an elite year but a very good year. Would I like to see him carry the club offensively as we are in the homestretch and in the middle of a 3-6 stinkfest with a tough week ahead - you bet.
Todd Gack (09-02-2013)
Dude is 25, poorly conditioned, allergic to first base, and can't field. People think the Cards have 2 starting calibre 1st basemen. They don't.
Wonderful Monds (09-02-2013)
Votto is worth 17M by any sane metric chosen. It's simply not a topic worth debating.
It's also not our money.
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
*please note I do not think Votto is over or underrated, just saying that winning an MVP 3 years ago isn't a great reasoning.