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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    You don't make up for a bit of a depleted farm system by signing guys to bad contracts unless you want to become the Angels.

    The Reds won 97 games with Drew Stubbs in CF last year. Choo was the perfect addition to this team, but they'll be okay without him.
    They also got to play the Astros about 16 times.

    They need to replace Choo's OBP, when/if Choo goes (and I don't think they will be able to sign him) they have literally no one who can hit 1st or 2nd.

    It will be interesting to see what they do. Travieso/Stephenson may be on the block.

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    With the second half Hamilton has put together, it will be a major upset if anyone but him is in CF on Opening Day next year.
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    I guess I disagree that Choo would be a bad signing for the Cubs.

    Granted, I am not a Cubs expert, but there's a cost to a big market team to be languishing in the basement. They really can't afford to tank 3-4 years while they "rebuild".. It makes more sense to accelerate the rebuilding process through FA.

    They are probably going to have plenty of cash to spend this offseason, and targeting one of the 5 top FA hitters is a good use of money. It's a good way to add talent to the organization.

    Not really a Cleveland expert either, but adding Bourne and Swisher (and some others) really improved their team this year. They are now a wildcard contender this year, despite trading for Choo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    I'm kind of torn on Choo. Love him. Not so much in CF. And I'm really afraid of the L/R splits. I certainly would'nt be throwing $12 mil plus at him. And I know, someone will.
    I don't view 12M as that much money to be honest. Isn't that basically what Arroyo makes? We gave Broxton 10M. If we don't have the money for him, I can respect that. What I don't want is to let him walk thinking we're going to replace him with someone just as good with that 12M. That player just doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    I guess I disagree that Choo would be a bad signing for the Cubs.

    Granted, I am not a Cubs expert, but there's a cost to a big market team to be languishing in the basement. They really can't afford to tank 3-4 years while they "rebuild".. It makes more sense to accelerate the rebuilding process through FA.

    They are probably going to have plenty of cash to spend this offseason, and targeting one of the 5 top FA hitters is a good use of money. It's a good way to add talent to the organization.

    Not really a Cleveland expert either, but adding Bourne and Swisher (and some others) really improved their team this year. They are now a wildcard contender this year, despite trading for Choo.
    Code:
                                              
    Rk                 Pos   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS
    2    1B  Nick Swisher# .243 .340 .407 .747
    7    CF Michael Bourn* .271 .323 .361 .683
    8    RF    Drew Stubbs .240 .302 .370 .672

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    The Ms could easily be an above .500 team next season with a couple of shrewd FA pickups and the promotion of their arms to the major league rotation. The Cubs? I'm not sure how far away they are.
    I see the Cubs being closer to contention than Mariners or at least just as close. Better run differential this season and better pitching overall it seems. Wouldn't surprise at all for Cubs to arrive a little earlier than expected.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Choo will be offered a lot of money by large market teams this off-season. If he stays in Cincy, it will be because of non-monetary factors.

    Some folks think teams like the Mets and Cubs are typical "seller" teams who don't want to take on salary and will give away good players. To the contrary, these teams are under tremendous pressure to be reasonably good, even if not a true contender. RedRead's post makes this point and it is absolutely true.

    I think the NY teams and the Cubs will be all over Choo. Giants also, as an alternative to Hunter Pence. And there are undoubtedly other situations too. Mariners probably. It will be an active market and he will get a major contract.
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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    I'm kind of torn on Choo. Love him. Not so much in CF. And I'm really afraid of the L/R splits. I certainly would'nt be throwing $12 mil plus at him. And I know, someone will.
    If the Reds sign him for 4 years or so, the plan would obviously be for Choo to hold down CF for one more year and then take over LF at the end of Ludwick's deal, hopefully with Hamilton taking over CF. I remain skeptical on the last part of that plan, but even if Hamilton doesn't work, then a glove-first CF can be added later.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Never seen Choo staying past this season before. Also do not see Front Office letting one of the only 3 above average offensive players go. Should be interesting. This offense would really need a couple players to step up if he leaves. If you thought it was inconsistent this year, next season will really test your patience.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Choo will be offered a lot of money by large market teams this off-season. If he stays in Cincy, it will be because of non-monetary factors.
    Will it also be because Walt cleared money via trade in the offseason?
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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    I love what Choo has done for us this year. But we'd be stupid to hand out massive dollars to him. He's on the wrong side of 30, doesn't bring premium defense, and is likely to see a gradual decline in power fairly soon. He gave us one good year, which is what we were looking for. He's VERY unlikely to give us five good years.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    I think the Reds would be nuts to hand a platoon player on the wrong side of 30 that kind of money.
    Do you think you are smart?

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    Choo certainly struggles vs. LHP. But it isnt like he is a complete black hole. He has a .326 OBP against lefties this season and .336 for career. The .326 this season would still have him second overall on team. Kind of funny and kind of sad.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Do you think you are smart?
    What did he say that wasn't smart?

    Choo splits:

    vs RHP: 1.025 OPS

    vs LHP: .544

    That is an extreme difference. Those numbers = platoon player

    Do you think you are smart after asking reds44 if he is smart? (what a weird comment/question)

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Let's just win a World Series and worry about all this stuff later. Okay?


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