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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    I think the Reds would be nuts to hand a platoon player on the wrong side of 30 that kind of money.
    If his platoon split was that he struggled against RHP...I might agree with this. But the vast majority of pitchers in the bigs are RH, no?


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    If his platoon split was that he struggled against RHP...I might agree with this. But the vast majority of pitchers in the bigs are RH, no?
    I believe he was responding to the $100 million contract. I think that would severly handcuff the Reds and is too much to give a great OBP player that is bad against lefties and bad on defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I believe he was responding to the $100 million contract. I think that would severly handcuff the Reds and is too much to give a great OBP player that is bad against lefties and bad on defense.
    He's bad against lefties this season. He's sub-par normally. Not horrific. And defensively...he will NOT be bad on defense as a corner OF'er IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Think as you please.
    But, Votto doesn't think like that and most of the people will not think like that.
    Which point are you referring to? Where I showed Bruce has superior power or defense?

    Choo is better at getting on base, doesn't mean he is a better player. It means he is better at getting on base. Bruce is better at hitting for power and defense. I think they are pretty equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Obviously, you are a big fan of Bruce. You give too much weight to the defense.
    Anyway, Here is a question.
    XBHs are included in OPS. WHY do you show XBH separately?
    I am a big fan of both Bruce and Choo. I am not biased in saying I think Bruce is pretty equal with ALL things considered. I do not give too much weight to defense, it is very important.

    I displayed XBH because one of my points was Bruce has superior power and OPS while including SL% does not pinpoint a player's power. I laid out the differences in the players in a previous post, but I will do it again.

    Choo is better at getting on base (elite)
    Bruce has more power
    Bruce is way better on defense (elite)

    Oh yeah, and Bruce is 5 years younger.

    The Reds are lucky to have both players. If they were both free agents next season and the Reds could only sign one of them I would pick Bruce every day of the week and twice on sunday, and its not because I am a "huge bruce fan" it is because I am a huge Reds fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!
    funny joke...

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    This thread has become....odd, to say the least.

    *moving on*

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!


    Might not know who is stupid, who is smart, who is Korean.


    But I do think I figured out who the jerk store is missing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Yes, I meant South Korean.

    I am just curious. You joined redszone this year, ...
    Interesting that Red Team Go!failed to mention that he joined redszone this year also.

    I hate to say it but this could be a perfect example of two guys that deserved to be 'seasoned' a little in the SunDeck. Something that I was deffinately against. (famous shrug)

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!
    Are you the one telling the joke in this vid?

    http://youtu.be/wguSXbUe2hw

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Do you think you are smart?
    I think he is.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Defending?
    That Choo is a very good player and that he is a better player than Bruce is a fact.
    Yes, I have bad grammar and I'm North Korean.
    You seem to have trouble deciphering between facts and opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    You seem to have trouble deciphering between facts and opinion.
    There are no facts, only interpretations.
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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!
    Of course you're not

    everyone knows North Korea doesn't have the internet, duh!
    sorry we're boring

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    As far as choo goes, while I love his play I'm of the opinion of giving him a qualifying offer, getting the pick putting Hamilton in center next year and pursue either a third baseman or shortstop in the offseason that is offensively more productive than cozart and Frazier but perhaps costs less years and dollars than choo. Our best three non pitching prospects are outfielders Hamilton Winker and Ervin. An aging choo would just block them in the next year or two. Go with ludwick as a stopgap for this year.

    As for the quality of offense I'd say Hamilton/ludwick/a seasoned mesoraco/a new third or SS would equal a better offense than choo/black hole platoon in left/ Frazier or cozart/ and our catching platoon this year.

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