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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Obviously, you are a big fan of Bruce. You give too much weight to the defense.
    Anyway, Here is a question.
    XBHs are included in OPS. WHY do you show XBH separately?
    I am a big fan of both Bruce and Choo. I am not biased in saying I think Bruce is pretty equal with ALL things considered. I do not give too much weight to defense, it is very important.

    I displayed XBH because one of my points was Bruce has superior power and OPS while including SL% does not pinpoint a player's power. I laid out the differences in the players in a previous post, but I will do it again.

    Choo is better at getting on base (elite)
    Bruce has more power
    Bruce is way better on defense (elite)

    Oh yeah, and Bruce is 5 years younger.

    The Reds are lucky to have both players. If they were both free agents next season and the Reds could only sign one of them I would pick Bruce every day of the week and twice on sunday, and its not because I am a "huge bruce fan" it is because I am a huge Reds fan.

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    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!
    funny joke...

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    This thread has become....odd, to say the least.

    *moving on*
    2014 predictions:
    99-63 WS champs (Cards take 2nd WC, Mil 3rd, Pit 4th, Chi 5th)
    Bruce/Votto neck and neck MVP race (neither takes it)
    Bailey CYA winner
    Hamilton ROY & GG

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!


    Might not know who is stupid, who is smart, who is Korean.


    But I do think I figured out who the jerk store is missing....

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Yes, I meant South Korean.

    I am just curious. You joined redszone this year, ...
    Interesting that Red Team Go!failed to mention that he joined redszone this year also.

    I hate to say it but this could be a perfect example of two guys that deserved to be 'seasoned' a little in the SunDeck. Something that I was deffinately against. (famous shrug)

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
    Bye!
    Are you the one telling the joke in this vid?

    http://youtu.be/wguSXbUe2hw

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Do you think you are smart?
    I think he is.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Defending?
    That Choo is a very good player and that he is a better player than Bruce is a fact.
    Yes, I have bad grammar and I'm North Korean.
    You seem to have trouble deciphering between facts and opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    You seem to have trouble deciphering between facts and opinion.
    There are no facts, only interpretations.
    Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I have to go now.
    Lastly, I'm not a North Korean. It's a joke.
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    Of course you're not

    everyone knows North Korea doesn't have the internet, duh!

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    As far as choo goes, while I love his play I'm of the opinion of giving him a qualifying offer, getting the pick putting Hamilton in center next year and pursue either a third baseman or shortstop in the offseason that is offensively more productive than cozart and Frazier but perhaps costs less years and dollars than choo. Our best three non pitching prospects are outfielders Hamilton Winker and Ervin. An aging choo would just block them in the next year or two. Go with ludwick as a stopgap for this year.

    As for the quality of offense I'd say Hamilton/ludwick/a seasoned mesoraco/a new third or SS would equal a better offense than choo/black hole platoon in left/ Frazier or cozart/ and our catching platoon this year.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by remdog View Post
    Interesting that Red Team Go!failed to mention that he joined redszone this year also.

    I hate to say it but this could be a perfect example of two guys that deserved to be 'seasoned' a little in the SunDeck. Something that I was deffinately against. (famous shrug)

    Rem:
    You cut off the rest of what I said. That was a piece of the puzzle. Other than asking where he was from, where I suppose that can be viewed by a very sensitive indiviual as slightly inappropriate what did I say in this thread that is bad? I backed what I was saying about Bruce and choo with stats.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    Quote Originally Posted by Old school 1983 View Post
    As far as choo goes, while I love his play I'm of the opinion of giving him a qualifying offer, getting the pick putting Hamilton in center next year and pursue either a third baseman or shortstop in the offseason that is offensively more productive than cozart and Frazier but perhaps costs less years and dollars than choo. Our best three non pitching prospects are outfielders Hamilton Winker and Ervin. An aging choo would just block them in the next year or two. Go with ludwick as a stopgap for this year.

    As for the quality of offense I'd say Hamilton/ludwick/a seasoned mesoraco/a new third or SS would equal a better offense than choo/black hole platoon in left/ Frazier or cozart/ and our catching platoon this year.
    I agree with everything your saying also add in the Yorman factor who has to be on the roster in 15..... If he keeps improving he could well be the starting LF in 15. The thing about Frazier and Cozart is they are not bad, but not good, just bleh... But they are cheap.

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    Re: Cubs expected to pursue CHOO..

    FWIW, Choo against LHP in 2013 is .190/.326/.218/.544. The OBP looks OK, but it's influenced largely by 11 HBP in 179 PAs. If he reverts to a more normal HBP season, that OBP will fall and make him pretty useless against LHP. Choo will be 32 just 3 months into any new deal. No way I'd go over 3 years on him. Really like the guy, but let somebody else pay for those steep decline years.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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