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    The Reds win the trade...


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    Re: The Reds win the trade...

    We won that trade and its not even close. Latos is turning into a beast and hes only what 25? No one is talking about him but at 13-4 with an ERA at 2.93 he has turned into a true ace.

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    Re: The Reds win the trade...

    We won that trade the day it was made and nothing that happened after it would have changed it.

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    What's strange is that he has 2 mechanical issues that could easily be fixed. I'm just wondering if he's like some players who don't take very well to instruction.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    What's strange is that he has 2 mechanical issues that could easily be fixed. I'm just wondering if he's like some players who don't take very well to instruction.
    Or Bryan Price may think his mechanics are fine...

    Or they think the results matter more than the mechanical flaw.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Or Bryan Price may think his mechanics are fine...

    Or they think the results matter more than the mechanical flaw.
    I think maybe he was talking about Volquez??
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    I think maybe he was talking about Volquez??
    Hmmmmm. That would make more sense. The fact that Team Clark didn't quote made me think he was talking about Latos, as it was Latos mentioned in the post prior
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Hmmmmm. That would make more sense. The fact that Team Clark didn't quote made me think he was talking about Latos, as it was Latos mentioned in the post prior
    Yes Volquez. I should have clarified.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    What's strange is that he has 2 mechanical issues that could easily be fixed. I'm just wondering if he's like some players who don't take very well to instruction.
    Volquez is like Stubbs in that sense. I remember reading a story about Jacoby's frustration with Stubbs over his refusal to adjust his approach to the plate. The curious thing is, Stubbs did just that once he landed in Cleveland. Too bad about Volquez, though. He has ace material.

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    Also, we may have came out on top in the Volquez trade, but we got beat in the Marshall/Woods deal.
    Last edited by redsfan1995; 08-26-2013 at 04:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armybrat45103 View Post
    Also, we may have came out on top in the Volquez trade, but we got beat in the Marshall/Woods deal.
    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102678
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    Quote Originally Posted by armybrat45103 View Post
    Also, we may have came out on top in the Volquez trade, but we got beat in the Marshall/Woods deal.
    It wasn't a competition. The Reds didn't get beat. They weren't trying to acquire the better player.

    They traded away someone at a position of luxury in exchange for someone at a position of need. Marshall was flat out awesome in 2012 and was a big part of the Reds making the playoffs. That Wood is having a great year in 2013 at a position the Reds don't really need right now doesn't change that deal one iota.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: The Reds win the trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    It wasn't a competition. The Reds didn't get beat. They weren't trying to acquire the better player.

    They traded away someone at a position of luxury in exchange for someone at a position of need. Marshall was flat out awesome in 2012 and was a big part of the Reds making the playoffs. That Wood is having a great year in 2013 at a position the Reds don't really need right now doesn't change that deal one iota.
    Essentially true, but starter pitching could become a need position as soon as opening day 2014. The Marshall injury has been an unfortunate killer all season long, especially when needed in "clutch" games like last night in the 7th inning meltdown.

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    Re: The Reds win the trade...

    We won that trade the day it was made and nothing that happened after it would have changed it.
    This is opinion.
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    Re: The Reds win the trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    This is opinion.
    It is an awfully good one at that.

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