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Thread: Votto is not the issue. (Buster Olney Explains)

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    Re: Votto is not the issue. (Buster Olney Explains)

    Quote Originally Posted by osuceltic View Post
    I think all of this is interesting. I'd like to see even more detailed information. For example, comparing his results to pitch location -- not just strike/non-strike, but inside/outside/center, high/low -- and pitch type. Have scouting reports on Votto changed to the point that he's seeing more of certain types of pitches in certain locations? All strikes aren't created equal, and there are times when pitches out of the zone are great to hit (a high, hanging breaking ball, for example).

    My point is this: I don't think the numbers we have -- at least the ones presented here -- tell the whole story.
    I'd say that's definitely true. This level of analysis is insufficient to create a clear picture.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Votto is not the issue. (Buster Olney Explains)

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Votto is on pace to reach base safely 312 times, which would be a single season franchise record.
    Breaking Drew Stubbs record I'll assume.

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    Re: Votto is not the issue. (Buster Olney Explains)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Breaking Drew Stubbs record I'll assume.
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    RUNS vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
    
    REACHED BASE                  YEAR     RB       OBA       R     
    1    Pete Rose                1969      311     .099       50   
    2    Pete Rose                1975      310     .070       37   
    3    Pete Rose                1976      307     .075       57   
    4    Pete Rose                1973      301     .069       39   
    5    Joey Votto               2011      299     .089       30   
    6    Joe Morgan               1975      298     .130       50   
    7    Pete Rose                1974      296     .051       32   
    8    Frank Robinson           1962      295     .084       59   
    9    Pete Rose                1965      286     .060       41   
    T10  Joe Morgan               1973      282     .074       45   
    T10  Joe Morgan               1972      282     .092       59

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    Re: Votto is not the issue. (Buster Olney Explains)

    I was rewatching Bull Durham last night . It turns out RBI are an important stat:

    Making love is like hitting a baseball: you just gotta relax and concentrate. Besides, I'd never sleep with a player hitting under .250... not unless he had a lot of RBIs and was a great glove man up the middle.
    - Annie Savoy

    It turns out RBI can be a sorting criteria.

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    Re: Votto is not the issue. (Buster Olney Explains)

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    I was rewatching Bull Durham last night . It turns out RBI are an important stat:

    - Annie Savoy

    It turns out RBI can be a sorting criteria.
    Tim Robbins was a lucky man.

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    Re: Votto is not the issue. (Buster Olney Explains)

    Making love is like hitting a baseball: you just gotta relax and concentrate. Besides, I'd never sleep with a player hitting under .250... not unless he had a lot of RBIs and was a great glove man up the middle.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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