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    middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Our esteemed 3, 4, 5 hitters went 0-19 last night. We should never expect to win a game with those results from the heart of your lineup.

    And who ever thought we would EVER see a day when Joey Votto went 0 for 7? Just not our day.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Choo was absolutely terrible. I believe he bats first.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    I agree, also doesn't help they weren't allowed to swing either.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajinous View Post
    I agree, also doesn't help they weren't allowed to swing either.
    Lets see, they were allowed to swing 19 times in 19 AB's. I don't follow.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Lets see, they were allowed to swing 19 times in 19 AB's. I don't follow.
    I was commenting on all the bunts. Especially having BP bunt.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajinous View Post
    I was commenting on all the bunts. Especially having BP bunt.
    Brandon Philips has come to the dish 579 times and made an out 416 times, 71.8% of the time, let's not pretend he's not prone to making outs on his own, of those outs three were sac bunts. 39.5% of those bunts have been by position players, 14% of those have been by Cozart.

    The "bunting" hysteria today is crazy, granted the Reds will probably bunt more than the last few years it is also related to four factors,

    1. The Reds don't get on base
    2. The Reds score less runs
    3. The Reds hit fewer 2b's vs the league
    4. The Reds hit fewer HR's vs the league

    Solution?

    Get on base and hit extra base hits, thus less bunts.

    See simple!

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    SACRIFICES                    YEAR     SAC       R       OBA      SEC      2B       HR     
    1    Reds                     2009      100      673     .318     .262      -26       -9   
    2    Reds                     2011       78      735     .326     .264      -27       30   
    T3   Reds                     2012       73      669     .315     .263        5       11   
    T3   Reds                     2007       73      783     .335     .283      -30       23   
    5    Reds                     2008       72      704     .321     .279      -42       13   
    T6   Reds                     2010       66      791     .338     .275        1       28   
    T6   Reds                     2006       66      749     .336     .309      -25       29   
    8    Reds                     2005       43      820     .339     .308       24       50

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Choo was absolutely terrible. I believe he bats first.
    A bit overstated, wouldn't you say? The guy was on base 3x. You want to criticize him for his baserunning blunder, fine. But to categorize him overall that way is incorrect.
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    Chapman can be downright pornographic at times.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Trajinous View Post
    I was commenting on all the bunts. Especially having BP bunt.
    The thread was about our 3-5 hitters, Phillips bats 2nd.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    The 3,4,5 hitters lost the game yes, but Baker's mismanagement and Votto's horrific game lost the game.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Why does it have to be one thing that lost the game?

    There were dozens of events last night, that if anyone doesn't happen, the Reds win the game.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: middle of lineup lost game for us last night

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Why does it have to be one thing that lost the game?

    There were dozens of events last night, that if anyone doesn't happen, the Reds win the game.
    I think "x lost the game" is shorthand for "x was a really big part of why the team lost." At least that's the only way the statement makes any sense.
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