If you win two WS in a six year span and capture one of them with some of the most improbable dramatics in the history of the game, you are going to get a mulligan on one big choke.
Yes, I think the Cards choke was "worse" given the circumstances. But I doubt it affected them as much considering the cache they have built up prior to that.
If team A hasn't been to the playoffs in forever and then blows a series lead and team B does the same thing, but they have titles and rings and big wins recently-- I definitely think it would be easier for team B to get past it.
3 of 4 from the Cards team that made the Reds look like road kill the last two series? I'll take it.
I feel much like you Edskin. I'm not buying in until they give me a reason to. We're a good team, and a class organization. Still don't think they'll win a playoff series this year and I think last year was the best chance we're going to ever have to win it all or get to a World Series with this window or this current group.
They might not be in a fog, but I think a lot of my friends who are Reds fans like me feel the pain still from that series and all along, I knew we were going to lose games four and five and lose the series. For those who say players don't get wrapped up in all that, I disagree. I think they all felt the squeeze last year as well and they all knew they were going to not get it done in those last few games against the Giants.
I hope they prove me wrong, and I'm glad that it's been another winning season; but I still think we left the golden opportunity on the table last year and I dont think we'll get it back.
2009 Attendance Record: 3-5 2010 Attendance Record: 2-9
2011 Attendance Record: 3-4 2012 Attendance Record: 3-4
2013 Attendance Record: 5-2 2014 Attendance Record: 3-1
I think the biggest reason people are pessimistic about this team is because they won 97 games last season and won the division easily. Most people expected the regular season to be a cake walk this year. They reasoned that the Reds won 97 games last year, replaced their biggest weakness (Drew Stubbs) with a stud player (Shin-soo Choo), Votto was healthy again and everyone else was back. So the Reds would "obviously" win more than 97 games this year and coast into the playoffs.
Unfortunately baseball doesn't work that way. Never has, never will. Peoples' expectations were sky high -- and totally unrealistic, so it is inevitable that the team failed to live up to the absurd expectations. That is why everyone is feeling disappointment with the team this year.
Just imagine how the Nationals' fans feel. They won 98 games last year, made some offseason upgrades and had a no-restrictions Stephen Strasburg to look forward to. That team has crashed and burned.
The lesson: Whatever happened last year has very little to do with this year. Every season is a whole new ballgame.
Tom Servo (09-06-2013)
I will not call 2013 a disappointment yet because it is ongoing. If the Reds rallied and won the central by one game I'd consider it a very good regular season. If they lose it by one game I'd consider it a mild disappointment. Yes, one game can make that big of a difference.
Before the year I wanted two thing:
1. Win division
2. Advance to NLCS
If #2 happened as a WC, then it sort of makes #1 moot
Anything less than a result equaling #2 in this scenario is a disappointment to me.
If we aren't one of the last four teams standing this year I will consider it a disappointing outcome.
The series still haunts me as a fan, something I wrote in an email to friends this morning before seeing this thread. Mostly because this year reminded me how hard it is to get so many things to fall into place at the right time, and we had that happen last year, and because it's not financially possible to keep together what we have had in recent years, I am personally left with the feeling that 2012 was likely the best chance to win a WS that we have had in a few decades and perhaps in the next few decades. And it was there for the not-so-difficult taking and it was blown.