Everything is perfect, but there is a lot of room for improvement. --- Shunryu Suzuki-roshi
need hitting, the rotation of leake, cingrani cueto, bailey and latos is good enough
Everyone don't get me wrong. I don't think the Reds should bring Bronson back. I just think they should make the qualifying offer. Maybe some of you don't understand the rules for qualifying offers. The Reds have five days after the Series ends to make Bronson a qualifying offer - 1 year at around 13.3 million (don't know this years exact figure) - He then has seven days to accept or reject it. That is basically it. So - Bronson doesn't have the luxury of getting a bunch of offers or not, then deciding to take the Reds offer or not. He has to decide then and there BEFORE the FA agent season gets into swing. He has stated many times that he wants a multi year deal. I believe he will reject a qualifying offer. If the Reds do not make such an offer he walks with no compensation whatever to the Reds. There is little risk, imo, that he will accept such an offer. Bronson knows at 37, if he waits another year, his chance of a multi year deal goes down significantly. 38 IS different than 37 in the baseball marketplace. So - make him the offer, get that draft pick. Go with Cueto-Latos-Bailey-Leake-Cingrani next year. Induct Bronson in the Reds HoF when he retires. And hopefully that draft pick goes all Stephenson or Votto for us down the road.
Its a shame, but he'll be gone. As will Choo. And the Reds will be fine. Definitely an all-time great Reds pitcher. I remember a few years ago when he was by far our best player, hands down
"I had a cigar in my back pocket...I didn't wanna break it." - Bartholomew "Bump" Bailey
Reds fan since 1968 win or lose.
2-3 years of Arroyo + whatever you get for Bailey > 1 year of Homer + draft pick for letting Arroyo walk
Or at least potentially so. This assumes Homer is gone after 2014. If Homer is willing to talk about resigning and it's possible financially, that changes everything.
Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013!
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
If the chance came to sign Bailey over Bronson, I would do it without a blink. But, Bailey does not want to be here long term and Bronson is too old and has too much wear on him to sign. I would trade Bailey for some hitting prospects and bring up Stephenson asap. Leake, Latos, Cigrani, Stephenson, and Cueto is a solid rotation for "14
Arroyo proved to be a valuable asset for a young staff. His time and need has come and gone. It's time to use his spot in the rotation to bring a young guy along and keep building for the future. Cueto, Latos, Leake, Bailey, and Cingrani seems just fine to me, and leaves room in AAA for a new ace of the future to step up and get plenty of innings.
I don't think he gets offered the qualifying offer.
If he declines, it lessens his free agency worth.
Recent estimates I've seen have him as a 2 yr 25 MM player if the Reds don't offer a qualifying offer. If they do, his price probably drops as teams won't pursue him having to give up a draft pick.
Reds are in a catch 22 with the QA.