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    I forgive you now, Votto.
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    Players go through slumps (every single one). Joey Votto is a great player and even in a slump is better in the lineup than the alternative. Hopefully tonight is the indicator that he is getting out of it. I for one, love the fact that Joey acknowledged that he knew he needed to do better. He is a competitor. I hope we all know that Joey was doing everything and anything he could to get out of this slump. I am just happy we are good enough to win when he is off his game.
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    Well done, Joey.

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    The Pasadena Star News in Los Angeles had a headline in their sports page today:

    "Dodgers lose on slumpy Votto HR".

    Slumpy Votto
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    Re: Votto being Votto: Holding Himself Accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    The Pasadena Star News in Los Angeles had a headline in their sports page today:

    "Dodgers lose on slumpy Votto HR".

    Slumpy Votto
    Does that make him one of the seven dwarfs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommycash View Post
    Players go through slumps (every single one). Joey Votto is a great player and even in a slump is better in the lineup than the alternative. Hopefully tonight is the indicator that he is getting out of it. I for one, love the fact that Joey acknowledged that he knew he needed to do better. He is a competitor. I hope we all know that Joey was doing everything and anything he could to get out of this slump. I am just happy we are good enough to win when he is off his game.
    He's a notoriously analytical and thoughful player with exceptional talent. Whenever a player like him (there aren't many) goes into a prolonged slump, the tomatoes start flying with some saying he "thinks too much" or that he "just needs to simplify getting bat on ball." And that's all aside from the omnipresent BB/OBA debate.

    At the end of the day, you either trust in his talent and his mind or you don't. I remember sitting just above 1B last year at GABP for the series with the Nats. Talked with a Reds fan (probably in his 60s) for most of the game. One of his more interesting views was a very thought-through opinion that JV was seriously "overrated." He personally like Frazier's upside much more. On the basis of $ and metrics, that can still be debated but either way.

    I trust in Joey Votto. Have never bashed him here or anywhere. I'm really, really glad he's a Red. Give me "slumpy" any day of any week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newport Red View Post
    Does that make him one of the seven dwarfs?
    Hi Ho, Hi Ho, back to L.A. with tails between their legs they go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1940757690 View Post
    He's a notoriously analytical and thoughful player with exceptional talent. Whenever a player like him (there aren't many) goes into a prolonged slump, the tomatoes start flying with some saying he "thinks too much" or that he "just needs to simplify getting bat on ball." And that's all aside from the omnipresent BB/OBA debate.

    At the end of the day, you either trust in his talent and his mind or you don't. I remember sitting just above 1B last year at GABP for the series with the Nats. Talked with a Reds fan (probably in his 60s) for most of the game. One of his more interesting views was a very thought-through opinion that JV was seriously "overrated." He personally like Frazier's upside much more. On the basis of $ and metrics, that can still be debated but either way.

    I trust in Joey Votto. Have never bashed him here or anywhere. I'm really, really glad he's a Red. Give me "slumpy" any day of any week.

    How drunk was this guy you were talking to?

    Even a non-analytical numbers person would not even think that Frazier has more upside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    The Pasadena Star News in Los Angeles had a headline in their sports page today:

    "Dodgers lose on slumpy Votto HR".

    Slumpy Votto
    He should stand up straight.
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    Re: Votto being Votto: Holding Himself Accountable

    Where has Slumpy's head been this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post
    Where has Slumpy's head been this season?
    It's been down. That's what happens when you slump.
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    Re: Votto being Votto: Holding Himself Accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    How drunk was this guy you were talking to?

    Even a non-analytical numbers person would not even think that Frazier has more upside.
    But Frazier knocked in the winning run....

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    Re: Votto being Votto: Holding Himself Accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    How drunk was this guy you were talking to?

    Even a non-analytical numbers person would not even think that Frazier has more upside.
    Ha! Literally laughed out loud. To answer your question seriously, the dude in question had maybe had two beers. No more than that for me. More than being soused, he was angry. Some deep-seated, Votto-hating issues I didn't dare probe more lest there be a volcanic eruption.

    "Are Votto's best years ahead of him or behind him?" "Now, same question for Frazier." He'd ask questions like those. More than a year ago.
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    Re: Votto being Votto: Holding Himself Accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsBrick View Post
    This is a little snippit from John Fay's post about Joey Votto's slump (hate to use that word...but...). Sorry if there's already a thread about it...if so feel free to delete this one.

    Joey Votto called me over today and wanted the bad news.

    “What kind of run am I on?” he asked.

    “You’re 0-for-10, 2-for-20, 3-for-34,” I said. “How far to do you want to go back?”

    “As far as you’ve got,” he said.

    “You’re hitting .186 since Aug. 10,” I said.

    “That’s bad for this time of year — any time of year,” he said.


    It went on to say he doesn't have a reason for it and that he feels good at the plate...he's just missing.

    He also trashed the notion that he needs a day off...

    Not many guys would call a reporter over so they could hear how bad they're doing. Pretty refreshing, actually.
    Joey's already my favorite Red, but this makes me like him even more.
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