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View Poll Results: In the NL in 2013, what percent of hits are extra-base hits?

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  • Less than 20%

    10 21.28%
  • 20% to 25%

    9 19.15%
  • 25% to 29%

    7 14.89%
  • 30% to 34%

    17 36.17%
  • 35% to 39%

    4 8.51%
  • 40% or Greater

    0 0%
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Thread: Quick Poll: Extra Base Hit Frequency

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    Re: Quick Poll: Extra Base Hit Frequency

    Quote Originally Posted by powersackers View Post
    Well the liklihood of scoring from first on a single is zero. From second is probably greater than 70%. Match that up with the xbh % liklihood and bunting still seems pretty logical.
    You simply cannot answer that without factoring in the cost associated with the out you're making and the reality that the out results in fewer opportunities to get a hit.

    Really simple example.

    Runner on first, 1 out. 2 outs to get 1 extra base hit.
    Runner on 2nd, 2 out. 1 out to get 1 singe.

    Odds of those things happening is roughly the same. The bunt is basically treading water. Of course, leaving the guy on first base gives you an extra plate appearance for a single that would advance him to 3B or an unintentional sacrifice as well (and a double play, of course).
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Quick Poll: Extra Base Hit Frequency

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    You simply cannot answer that without factoring in the cost associated with the out you're making and the reality that the out results in fewer opportunities to get a hit.

    Really simple example.

    Runner on first, 1 out. 2 outs to get 1 extra base hit.
    Runner on 2nd, 2 out. 1 out to get 1 singe.

    Odds of those things happening is roughly the same. The bunt is basically treading water. Of course, leaving the guy on first base gives you an extra plate appearance for a single that would advance him to 3B or an unintentional sacrifice as well (and a double play, of course).
    Who is on the mound? Who is coming up? What park? Several factors.

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    Re: Quick Poll: Extra Base Hit Frequency

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Who is on the mound? Who is coming up? What park? Several factors.
    Agreed. Those factors all come in to play. Though the rote bunting decision we see from managers suggests those things aren't terribly relevant in their minds.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Quick Poll: Extra Base Hit Frequency

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    You simply cannot answer that without factoring in the cost associated with the out you're making and the reality that the out results in fewer opportunities to get a hit.

    Really simple example.

    Runner on first, 1 out. 2 outs to get 1 extra base hit.
    Runner on 2nd, 2 out. 1 out to get 1 singe.

    Odds of those things happening is roughly the same. The bunt is basically treading water. Of course, leaving the guy on first base gives you an extra plate appearance for a single that would advance him to 3B or an unintentional sacrifice as well (and a double play, of course).
    I don't think there are a ton of sac bunts by non pitchers with one out. With no outs? Yeah. More.

    Strictly observational.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.


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