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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Wow, so many more worthy candidates missing and errors in fact, kind of funny.
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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    I do not think OSU is innocent, but this article considers them one of the most unethical program in NCAA history because of one incident?

    OK....

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    I counted at least 5 programs that somehow got left off this list. A rather strange list indeed! Not to be taken seriously!

    How the heck did this guy forget about Oregon?
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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I do not think OSU is innocent, but this article considers them one of the most unethical program in NCAA history because of one incident?

    OK....
    Well you know any hate list can't be complete without OSU, even if there are a bunch of programs that have committed far worse crimes that convienantly get left off this list
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Buckeye View Post
    Well you know any hate list can't be complete without OSU, even if there are a bunch of programs that have committed far worse crimes that convienantly get left off this list
    Why is this a hate list?
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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Why is this a hate list?
    It's not. It's just a poorly researched one. I think if the author had done his homework, there would be more programs from the late '70s to the late '80s on the list. Not only did you have booster making payments to players, but you had players making it to the NFL who were functionally illiterate. In addition to players getting improper benefits from boosters, they were also allowed to cheat and sometimes even given university provided tutors who facilitated the cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    It's not. It's just a poorly researched one. I think if the author had done his homework, there would be more programs from the late '70s to the late '80s on the list. Not only did you have booster making payments to players, but you had players making it to the NFL who were functionally illiterate. In addition to players getting improper benefits from boosters, they were also allowed to cheat and sometimes even given university provided tutors who facilitated the cheating.
    I agree it's superficial. But I get the sense that the author was born in the 90's and he picked some of the most visible examples fom each conference.
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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    It's not. It's just a poorly researched one. I think if the author had done his homework, there would be more programs from the late '70s to the late '80s on the list. Not only did you have booster making payments to players, but you had players making it to the NFL who were functionally illiterate. In addition to players getting improper benefits from boosters, they were also allowed to cheat and sometimes even given university provided tutors who facilitated the cheating.
    Agreed. Although I think such a list is pointless, I wonder, if one would do some research, you should take into account things that happened over 30 years ago. It seemed back in the 50s and 60s - and probably even further back than that - a lot of schools gave extra benefits to football players. Since it appeared that everybody did it, would that count against a school? Also, a lot of what happened was anecdotal. You'll hear some player from back in the 50s say that he got cars and cash from boosters and when he was recruited, other schools offered him extra stuff but the school(s) was never investigated much less put on probation. Grade fixing has been going on since the beginning. Some schools just don't get caught.
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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I agree it's superficial. But I get the sense that the author was born in the 90's and he picked some of the most visible examples fom each conference.
    In other words: a bogus list

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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Agreed. Although I think such a list is pointless, I wonder, if one would do some research, you should take into account things that happened over 30 years ago. It seemed back in the 50s and 60s - and probably even further back than that - a lot of schools gave extra benefits to football players. Since it appeared that everybody did it, would that count against a school? Also, a lot of what happened was anecdotal. You'll hear some player from back in the 50s say that he got cars and cash from boosters and when he was recruited, other schools offered him extra stuff but the school(s) was never investigated much less put on probation. Grade fixing has been going on since the beginning. Some schools just don't get caught.
    There is also that unethical practice from back in the day of not playing african american players

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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    In other words: a bogus list
    Who is on the list tht shouldn't be?
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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

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    Who is on the list tht shouldn't be?

    Auburn?
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    Auburn?
    Auburn isn't on the list. Who is that shouldn't be?
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    Re: 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Auburn isn't on the list. Who is that shouldn't be?
    You could put any 15 major colleges of your choice on that list and you wouldn't be wrong. They all cheat a certain amount. It's just one of those articles to get clicks.
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